afterburn81

Too bad there are many many airplane hungry sharks that don't think the way you do. Heck they would probably even pay the company to be allowed to go over there. Anything, just to say they could fly a shinny jet.

It would be kind of neat to go over there if you were compensated correctly though.

CANAM

The truly sad part is that they're only hiring "local" Flight Attendants. They'll say that it will be due to language reasons, and that will be partially correct. The real reason will be to aviod having any semblence of acceptable work rules. Many of these young ladies will come from abject poverty and be forced to work scheduals that would make even US regionals shutter. Sad and preditory.

Confused

or it is because there are many locals that can work that job. How many locals know how to fly a jet or for that matter any aircraft? Pretty much none and thus the reason for america pilots.

They won't be hiring local FA's as opposed to american FA's simply to exploit them.


This start up will not be an american company. It is a Vietnamese company.

Have you ever looked at work rules for other asian airlines and their flight attendants? I honestly don't know how they or pilots are treated in SE Asian countries.

BobSakamano

As a furloughed pilot that has done contract work overseas, there are ups and downs...though more downs than ups. However, if anyone even considers doing this for less than $6k/mo for an FO and $10k/mo for a Captain, you're doing yourself and everyone a major disservice.

Flying overseas is not glamorous. Work rules are usually on paper only and never enforced. Challenges to work rules fall on deaf ears. Maintenance issues can be extremely challenging, ATC is inconsistent, radar facilities hit or miss, poor use of communications, unimproved airports and navaids. Also, getting paid on time or at all can be an obstacle. You don't have any of the protections you have in the US, plus all of the risks and MANY more. There is a reason that contract jobs have paid more. YOU EARN IT.

Contract pay is already on it's way down because of people willing to go abroad for little gain. Overseas work is not for time building/dues paying. It is a niche and not for suitable for many. Look before you leap and don't screw fellow pilots by lowering the bar. God help us all if a US regional air carrier actually sends pilots to a foreign country for regional pay.

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AirWillie

I think the airline over there needs ASA management. The crews will be separate. I'm sure they'll be able to fill those 20 seats for the CRJ-900 overnight probably even with locals. It would be interesting to see what they offer ASA guys since I guess they get priority.

sigep_nm

So what do you think the average salary is in vietnam? According to Global Integrity it is about $500 a year. So I am not sure how you are coming to your conclusion that anyone is undercutting a vietnamese pilot.

AirWillie

500 dollars a year to fly a jet?

Ftrooppilot

There is an old story about the JAL pilot approaching Hickam AFB / Honolulu AIrport in the mid 60s. He was confused by the new "reef runway." The tower asked him if he had ever been to Hawaii before. His response was, " yes, one low approach in December 1941."

With the new age 65 rule, there could be some Yankee Air Pirates, etc. who used to bomb Hanoi now flying regional jets there.

ExperimentalAB

Nope...reading comprehension there, buddy. Don't think they mentioned anywhere about pilots making $500/yr.

SuperPilotJesse

Ha... well if the average salary for all people in the US is $35,499 and the first year (What I would have made with out furlough) approx. $24,000 or about 68% of the mean income.

http://pubdb3.census.gov/macro/03200.../new01_001.htm

So if we go with the same math they will be paying $340 to fly a jet.
haha EXACTLY.