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Old 04-29-2010, 06:02 AM
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This offer is ridiculous, and I predict they will have hundreds of applicants just from the ASA side. And if they don't, they'll open it up to SkyWest and get hundreds more. I predict most will be FOs chasing upgrade. It's more than they make now.

Thank you Jerry Atkin for once again starting a race to the bottom. You cornered the US Regional market, and now must expand your horizons.

Forget about Mesa. SkyWest and its subsidiaries are the world's cockroaches now.
I don't think it's all that bad. Current expat compensation is what it is for a reason.

ASA might get a few thrill seekers or furloughs to jump on this, but in the long run I suspect this will not be sustainable at the offered rate after the furloughs get recalled, the thrill seekers move on to other things, and the word gets out about the trade-offs. Living overseas is not for everyone.

The other factor here affecting compensation is experience level...most expat jobs require (and pay for) significant experience...some of the ASA furloughs might have less than 1000 hours total time. Air Mekong doesn't seem too concerned about that...I guess they are trusting ASA.
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So what is the $900 for ? Is that in addition to free housing? Or just for food (about $30/day)?
It's used to pay for your housing situation. I suppose they expect you to get a living arrangment worked out and that is what they will pay for it.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I don't think it's all that bad. Current expat compensation is what it is for a reason.

ASA might get a few thrill seekers or furloughs to jump on this, but in the long run I suspect this will not be sustainable at the offered rate after the furloughs get recalled, the thrill seekers move on to other things, and the word gets out about the trade-offs. Living overseas is not for everyone.

The other factor here affecting compensation is experience level...most expat jobs require (and pay for) significant experience...some of the ASA furloughs might have less than 1000 hours total time. Air Mekong doesn't seem too concerned about that...I guess they are trusting ASA.
It's not a seniority based thing, It's an interview thing. They take who they want, they get around the contract by offering an loa. In the end they don't have to hire ASA pilots if they don't want to.

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Old 04-29-2010, 06:34 AM
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It's not a seniority based thing, It's an interview thing. They take who they want, they get around the contract by offering an loa. In the end they don't have to hire ASA pilots if they don't want to.

If they are particularly selective, they may not get enough takers. People who have thousands of hours in type probably also have wives, girlfriends, houses, kids, etc. Living overseas is not for everyone, and it is especially not for everyone's spouses.
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If they are particularly selective, they may not get enough takers. People who have thousands of hours in type probably also have wives, girlfriends, houses, kids, etc. Living overseas is not for everyone, and it is especially not for everyone's spouses.
Then only need 40 pilots! I bet that many have already applied!
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
Yeah i really don't think that is fair to say. Do you have the offer in front of you or did you just look at the basic numbers and decide to call 4000+ pilots losers for taking an offer that no one has committed to or even applied to?
Ok, internet tough guy. Go ahead and look at my posting history, and see if you can figure out where I work and if I've actually seen the offer or not.

And YES, the offer is pathetic. the biggest slap was them actually publishing a table comparing Air Mekong to ASA pay. They apparently think the average ASA Captain makes $124 an hour. And they also seem to think that making the same bottom line compensation as an ASA pilot is worth it.
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Ok, internet tough guy.

??? Did he threaten you?
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
It's used to pay for your housing situation. I suppose they expect you to get a living arrangment worked out and that is what they will pay for it.
again...$900 will get you in a questionable rental apartment in 'Nam. Maybe they expect you to find and live in a Saigon crash pad.
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Ok, internet tough guy. Go ahead and look at my posting history, and see if you can figure out where I work and if I've actually seen the offer or not.

And YES, the offer is pathetic. the biggest slap was them actually publishing a table comparing Air Mekong to ASA pay. They apparently think the average ASA Captain makes $124 an hour. And they also seem to think that making the same bottom line compensation as an ASA pilot is worth it.
Right i don't think you have read the post where i typed about a paragraph on how I thought the pay comparison was misguided. I tried to present the facts in a manner that didn't slander anyone. Apparently you are one of those people that just wants to bash people on APC and get into some sort of online *****fest of how you have been wronged by the industry... d'ey took arrre joooobbsss etc etc etc... I really don't care
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again...$900 will get you in a questionable rental apartment in 'Nam. Maybe they expect you to find and live in a Saigon crash pad.
Yeah I agree, I think they are expecting to people that go to be younger and likely split villas or something. They say they will let your family come but if you have a family and a house it's unrealistic and your tax advantage isn't as much a single person. Like someone said earlier it's likely going to be the younger thrill seekers.
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