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01-31-2010, 07:53 PM
#21
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2010
Position: 737
Posts: 75
Alas, where are these golden thrones? how much total time will you have before getting 500 cross country? via instructing, ill be at 1500tt long before getting the 500cc
02-01-2010, 09:00 AM
#22
Tuberriffic
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Hopefully the bunk
Posts: 222
EDIT: Yup, note the names further on in the article - "Miss June's Magda", "Miss October's Jaroslava", etc.
02-01-2010, 09:20 AM
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 115
I have been hearing about this pending pilot shortage since starting 13 years ago. It has not even come close to becoming reality (except for a non-sustainable short stint 2006 to 2007). So, like I said above I will not believe it until I see it.
However, this article is worth reading for career pilots. It might just ultimately be more propaganda from the puppy mills. But, this website usually does a very good job with content.
However, this article is worth reading for career pilots. It might just ultimately be more propaganda from the puppy mills. But, this website usually does a very good job with content.
I agree that there will never be a pilot shortage, as several other people were mentioning RyanAir has never has a shortage in 20 some years. I thought that article was going to be ab-initio training which has sometimes been the method of choice for Europe but it looked to me that RyanAir was just bragging about their pay for training scheme and how much money they could get "cadets" to pay for academy training and to buy their type ratings... if this is the way "Europe is ahead of America" I hope we never catch up.
02-01-2010, 09:55 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: Moving backwards
Posts: 220
There is always good argument on both sides about an upcoming, prolonged, shortage. I have been hearing these arguments since I started the whole thing in the late 90s. But, there has always been something stopping or preventing it. Twice now, a potential long-term shortage has started but then stopped from other factors.
The arguments for a future shortage is sound. However, have you taken into account new external factors that are yet unforeseen? I would very much like to see the shortage a reality. However, the realist/pessimist in me says something will get in the way again.
Don't discount airline managers. Though we may not agree with the greed/self-serving underlying most of their decisions it does not make them stupid. The airline lobby might yet find another 'solution' to a shortage. Or perhaps as the economy returns and airlines start to recover oil will shoot up again. And then airlines might just consolidate capacity into larger but fewer airplanes.
Also, don't forget about TSA's fervent efforts to chase our passengers away. And the effort of the government to get high speed rail going. I don't think there will be a return of demand for air travel. A recovery yes, but not a return.
The arguments for a future shortage is sound. However, have you taken into account new external factors that are yet unforeseen? I would very much like to see the shortage a reality. However, the realist/pessimist in me says something will get in the way again.
Don't discount airline managers. Though we may not agree with the greed/self-serving underlying most of their decisions it does not make them stupid. The airline lobby might yet find another 'solution' to a shortage. Or perhaps as the economy returns and airlines start to recover oil will shoot up again. And then airlines might just consolidate capacity into larger but fewer airplanes.
Also, don't forget about TSA's fervent efforts to chase our passengers away. And the effort of the government to get high speed rail going. I don't think there will be a return of demand for air travel. A recovery yes, but not a return.
02-01-2010, 10:41 AM
#25
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 115
There is always good argument on both sides about an upcoming, prolonged, shortage. I have been hearing these arguments since I started the whole thing in the late 90s. But, there has always been something stopping or preventing it. Twice now, a potential long-term shortage has started but then stopped from other factors.
The arguments for a future shortage is sound. However, have you taken into account new external factors that are yet unforeseen? I would very much like to see the shortage a reality. However, the realist/pessimist in me says something will get in the way again.
Don't discount airline managers. Though we may not agree with the greed/self-serving underlying most of their decisions it does not make them stupid. The airline lobby might yet find another 'solution' to a shortage. Or perhaps as the economy returns and airlines start to recover oil will shoot up again. And then airlines might just consolidate capacity into larger but fewer airplanes.
Also, don't forget about TSA's fervent efforts to chase our passengers away. And the effort of the government to get high speed rail going. I don't think there will be a return of demand for air travel. A recovery yes, but not a return.
The arguments for a future shortage is sound. However, have you taken into account new external factors that are yet unforeseen? I would very much like to see the shortage a reality. However, the realist/pessimist in me says something will get in the way again.
Don't discount airline managers. Though we may not agree with the greed/self-serving underlying most of their decisions it does not make them stupid. The airline lobby might yet find another 'solution' to a shortage. Or perhaps as the economy returns and airlines start to recover oil will shoot up again. And then airlines might just consolidate capacity into larger but fewer airplanes.
Also, don't forget about TSA's fervent efforts to chase our passengers away. And the effort of the government to get high speed rail going. I don't think there will be a return of demand for air travel. A recovery yes, but not a return.
And yes, I do realize that starting a sentence with "hopefully the airlines will" and ending it with something optimistic about the well being of the pilot community, I am setting myself up for disappoint..... But! I'm throwing it out there anyway.
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