Colgan Hiring....one last time
01-27-2010, 06:28 PM
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For the record...
Some folks expressed their issues with people taking a job at colgan. It is certainly a crappy bottom-feeder, and I would have not recommended it a year ago but they have voted in a union and are taking steps to improve their situation. Risky, but it has possibilities.
Some folks expressed their issues with people taking a job at colgan. It is certainly a crappy bottom-feeder, and I would have not recommended it a year ago but they have voted in a union and are taking steps to improve their situation. Risky, but it has possibilities.
Seriously?? This is how you come into a thread that has been closed two times by the mods? The other threads were closed because they turned into dont work for colgan threads because the mods thought they were out of control. Then we have a mod come in a try to start another flame war when people just want to know about the interviews and the people getting picked up. Congrats to those that got jobs in these tough times. I wish you well. Also everyone try and stay focused on topic. This is not a how long you will be at colgan, what oil will do, what the economy will do, or any other stuff like that thread. This is a thread for those trying to interview and get jobs at colgan because they want to. For crying out loud give it a break. I hope that the PNCL pilots and the COLGAN pilots can be combined sooner than later.
01-27-2010, 06:36 PM
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Mod note:
"The last 2 threads were closed by the mods because they had degraded into a why work for colgan because you are bringing down the industry threads."
The threads were closed for TOS violations, not a specific topic. If you have any questions about the moderation, it's best to PM the mod or speak with admin. That would be HSLD.
"The last 2 threads were closed by the mods because they had degraded into a why work for colgan because you are bringing down the industry threads."
The threads were closed for TOS violations, not a specific topic. If you have any questions about the moderation, it's best to PM the mod or speak with admin. That would be HSLD.
01-27-2010, 10:57 PM
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Most regional pilots are going to either spend their career there, or spend way longer than they had expected. Be prepared to live with your choice, or face doing a lateral transfer at some point.
There are many outside factors which affect the airline industry in the long term, and unlike the past, none of those factors look good right now...
Security Threats: These increase industry costs, and the associated hassles drive customers away. Nobody wins except government rent-a-cops who get fat benefit and retirement packages.
Oil: When will we really run out? Who knows? I don't even have an opinion on that, only that it will probably be within our working lifetimes. The only organizations who have the resources to make an accurate prediction all have some skin in the game, and cannot be relied upon to give us unbiased answers.
Carbon Restrictions: The hardcore environmentalists really are out to get you, they have stated that air travel is a horrible waste of resources, an exorbitant source of emissions, and totally unnecessary for most us. They really do want you to just stay home (exceptions made for the cabin-class private aircraft of the green political elite, of course).
No way to know what the future brings, but a lot of bullets have to be dodged in order for this industry to have a bright future. And every setback gives management another excuse to cut compensation.
You may be exactly what management is looking for...someone who will carry the weight of the world on their shoulders for little more than beer money, in exchange for what may well be a pipe-dream. Even better the regional managers do not have to do anything to make good on that "promise". They know you will leave, either hired by a major or fed up with the prospect of life at an entry-level job. They don't care which it is, as long as you leave before you get too much longevity.
There are many outside factors which affect the airline industry in the long term, and unlike the past, none of those factors look good right now...
Security Threats: These increase industry costs, and the associated hassles drive customers away. Nobody wins except government rent-a-cops who get fat benefit and retirement packages.
Oil: When will we really run out? Who knows? I don't even have an opinion on that, only that it will probably be within our working lifetimes. The only organizations who have the resources to make an accurate prediction all have some skin in the game, and cannot be relied upon to give us unbiased answers.
Carbon Restrictions: The hardcore environmentalists really are out to get you, they have stated that air travel is a horrible waste of resources, an exorbitant source of emissions, and totally unnecessary for most us. They really do want you to just stay home (exceptions made for the cabin-class private aircraft of the green political elite, of course).
No way to know what the future brings, but a lot of bullets have to be dodged in order for this industry to have a bright future. And every setback gives management another excuse to cut compensation.
You may be exactly what management is looking for...someone who will carry the weight of the world on their shoulders for little more than beer money, in exchange for what may well be a pipe-dream. Even better the regional managers do not have to do anything to make good on that "promise". They know you will leave, either hired by a major or fed up with the prospect of life at an entry-level job. They don't care which it is, as long as you leave before you get too much longevity.
01-28-2010, 01:08 AM
#46
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Mod note:
"The last 2 threads were closed by the mods because they had degraded into a why work for colgan because you are bringing down the industry threads."
The threads were closed for TOS violations, not a specific topic. If you have any questions about the moderation, it's best to PM the mod or speak with admin. That would be HSLD.
"The last 2 threads were closed by the mods because they had degraded into a why work for colgan because you are bringing down the industry threads."
The threads were closed for TOS violations, not a specific topic. If you have any questions about the moderation, it's best to PM the mod or speak with admin. That would be HSLD.
Yeah, yeah, I know, I should contact HSLD.
To John and Paul, I have great appreciation for the site you have created. What once cost over $100 to get year old information, is now near real time and FREE. We who have been in this crazy business for a decade or so sincerely thank you.
Oh, and Colgan is a bottom feeder only staffed by scum sucking losers who are not capable of flying Jets. (sorry IC, that was frustration talking, not an opinion of you)
For the record, scum has a nice nutty flavor with a hint of jasmine.
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01-28-2010, 01:33 AM
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Opps, sorry for the thread drift....
(Rickair said) "[Colgan] is certainly a crappy bottom-feeder." ahhh now we are back on topic.
On a completely unrelated subject..... for the new hires to IAH, if you need some suggestions for housing, PM me.
01-28-2010, 03:39 AM
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I haven't seen anything that calls Colgan's new hires "bad pilots." Some of these guys seem to have a very wide background flying a lot of different airplanes, and I'm sure that they're qualified.
The problem is that they're not legitimate jobs in my, and a lot of others, opinions. They're directly replacing furloughed guys at CAL, including myself. It's not officially a SCAB, but still it's a dishonorable way to get a job. My god, CAL new hires were making $30k/year, which is horrific in itself... now we have gobs of people literally throwing themselves at a sub-$20k job. Seriously?
Not that I'm ever going to be sitting on a hiring board, but I swear, if I ever see a Colgan FO hired in 2009-2010 apply at CAL, I know what my decision is. Something tells me that I'm not the only one who has this opinion. So to the folks using Colgan as a stepping stone: be careful what you're really stepping into. Have fun flying Q-400s for the rest of your natural life.
The problem is that they're not legitimate jobs in my, and a lot of others, opinions. They're directly replacing furloughed guys at CAL, including myself. It's not officially a SCAB, but still it's a dishonorable way to get a job. My god, CAL new hires were making $30k/year, which is horrific in itself... now we have gobs of people literally throwing themselves at a sub-$20k job. Seriously?
Not that I'm ever going to be sitting on a hiring board, but I swear, if I ever see a Colgan FO hired in 2009-2010 apply at CAL, I know what my decision is. Something tells me that I'm not the only one who has this opinion. So to the folks using Colgan as a stepping stone: be careful what you're really stepping into. Have fun flying Q-400s for the rest of your natural life.
01-28-2010, 03:54 AM
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I haven't seen anything that calls Colgan's new hires "bad pilots." Some of these guys seem to have a very wide background flying a lot of different airplanes, and I'm sure that they're qualified.
The problem is that they're not legitimate jobs in my, and a lot of others, opinions. They're directly replacing furloughed guys at CAL, including myself. It's not officially a SCAB, but still it's a dishonorable way to get a job. My god, CAL new hires were making $30k/year, which is horrific in itself... now we have gobs of people literally throwing themselves at a sub-$20k job. Seriously?
Not that I'm ever going to be sitting on a hiring board, but I swear, if I ever see a Colgan FO hired in 2009-2010 apply at CAL, I know what my decision is. Something tells me that I'm not the only one who has this opinion. So to the folks using Colgan as a stepping stone: be careful what you're really stepping into. Have fun flying Q-400s for the rest of your natural life.
The problem is that they're not legitimate jobs in my, and a lot of others, opinions. They're directly replacing furloughed guys at CAL, including myself. It's not officially a SCAB, but still it's a dishonorable way to get a job. My god, CAL new hires were making $30k/year, which is horrific in itself... now we have gobs of people literally throwing themselves at a sub-$20k job. Seriously?
Not that I'm ever going to be sitting on a hiring board, but I swear, if I ever see a Colgan FO hired in 2009-2010 apply at CAL, I know what my decision is. Something tells me that I'm not the only one who has this opinion. So to the folks using Colgan as a stepping stone: be careful what you're really stepping into. Have fun flying Q-400s for the rest of your natural life.
With regards to the fellow at Conti Mainline who went to riddle
Four good friends of mine currently are line holders at Continental on the 737 and two can hold 757 cruise FO what they all have in common is they started at Colgan. If you talk to any of them they will encourage anyone to go to Colgan even now! I understand your frustration of being furloughed but to say that a majority agree with you (granted 4 ppl are not a majority either) is making an assumption backed up by ????
I'm not at Colgan nor do I have plans to go to Colgan but being on the corporate side IF I were on a hiring board I rather hire a guy from Colgan than a bitter mainline pilot who's out to screw others! One last thing A SCAB is A SCAB this is not the bible there are no modified definitions or New World editions of this word.
Back on Topic:
My former colleague who interviewed this past weekend said that they will be interviewing this upcomming weekend in LGA again and subsequently there after.
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