ChipChelios

What they mean is...Colgan is your family now, so forget yours"

plasticpi

As far as seat locks go, expect a "possible/probable" lock on that equipment/seat for a year. What it boils down to is this:

Let's say you're hired as a Saab FO. You want to be a Q FO. If there is a Q FO position available that you want, and they are currently not hiring, you can probably slide over, one year longevity or not, provided you are the most senior person wanting that slot.

Now let's say you are a Saab FO who wants to be a Q FO, there's a Q FO slot available, but they are hiring. They are going to hire into that Q FO position and leave you where you are, unless you are outside your year seat lock.

It all just boils down to money. It takes money to transition you to the other aircraft. In the first scenario, they were willing to do it, because they needed someone on the Q, and didn't plan to hire anyone else to fill your seat. In the second scenario, why pay for two training events (your transition and the new hire to replace you,) when they can just pay for one (the new hire into the Q slot)?

All that being said, I want to emphasize to any new hires, that you are being paid the same regardless of equipment, and unless you want to be based in EWR, there is really no reason to want the Q. Take the Saab, the movement will be quicker there as there are more senior FOs in the Saab who will upgrade soon. If you are a Q FO, you will have to wait for all those FOs we hired in '08 for the Q to upgrade before you gain any seniority in your seat, which will take longer. There are a lot of '07 hire Saab FOs going for upgrade very, very soon. Take the Saab if you don't want EWR specifically.

outofwork

has Colgan been calling for a classdate yet?

CAPIP1998

I know you mean well and you're just trying to give out some good advice, but you should know that what you're telling people is not completely accurate. I've been reading this thread (all three) with some interest and I want to clarify what appears to be some misconceptions. The union has been working extremely hard over the past 8 months to revamp the way our pilots bid upon and are awarded vacancies, and we've had a lot of success. While it is important to the Company to keep training costs down, the availability of any position is driven entirely by seniority, and any transition or upgrade will only have a one year seat lock (which can be waived by the company). The only prohibited moves are from CA to FO and from the Q CA to SF3 CA (still being worked on). It is possible that we can create a more open structure under our new contract, but this is what we have currently. Also, ALL positions are available to be bid upon and awarded prior to any new hire being allowed to bid for those positions. In fact, the final list of moves will be published tomorrow and the list of available new hire positions will be fixed for the next 5 months or so. Again, I'm only trying to clear up some misconceptions, I'm not trying to give any advice or opinion.

Thank you.

etflies

Not officially. The interviewees from last weekend should be getting official word this coming week. At least, I hope so. First class will be mid Feb.

brewpilot

If you look at the new vacancy award there is a 09 hire that bid and got the Q fo slot. The 09 hires havent been here for a year yet so it looks like your able to bid before the 1 year seat lock. And the Q is going to IAH so its not just EWR that people have to worry about. The bid went thru 50 some odd FOs just to get the 16 slots for the IAH Q fo position, of which three were senior SF3 fos in IAH. So it doesn't look like IAH is going to be that senior on the FO side. Capt is another story though.

nwa757

Before you apply at Colgan, watch this please:


FRONTLINE: Coming Soon - Flying Cheap | PBS

It's spot on, we all know that. I am glad to see this company gaining more negative media coverage. Spread the word.

IlliniPilot99

thanks?


this has been played out...your just 2 shut down forums too late!

nwa757

Which shut down forums?

FL450

I think he or she meant shut down threads. there were two previoous Colgan threads however they were sgur sdown due to multiple TOS violation including but not limited to the information you posted.