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Old 01-18-2010, 02:23 PM
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I think that's the way to go, fair for everybody... if someone puts in a couple of years in the Saab, he/she should be rewarded with the Q....

New hires should not go to the Q, I don't think that would be fair..
That's funny. And I don't think it's fair that Colgan is flying CAL's 737 routes. Is it fair that Colgan's pilots will likely be stuck at that craphole making minimum wage for their entire career because there's no more major airlines flying any domestic routes?
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FL450
Actually I was referring to the bashing and name calling sir! I agree the thread needs to be informative however you guys are way off of thread topic. You don't know what you would do if you worked at colgan beause of the simple fact that you don't, a few of my friends are senior captains and while they don't like their current situation they are working to improve it.

Things don't happen overnight in aviation so give the brothers and sisters at colgan a chance to make things right before you start passing judgement.
And you probably had a better chance getting a pay raise before Pinnacle bought you. Good luck with that management team.
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:34 PM
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Semper FI usmc-sgt

Is Colgan not part of the ALPA Collective machine?
Semper Fi....are you Corps as well? Always good to see those who bleed scarlet and gold.

We are now part of ALPA although it is in its VERY infant stages. We have been in contract negotiations for a few months now.
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Riddler
That's funny. And I don't think it's fair that Colgan is flying CAL's 737 routes. Is it fair that Colgan's pilots will likely be stuck at that craphole making minimum wage for their entire career because there's no more major airlines flying any domestic routes?
Colgan isn't taking anybody's routes, CAL is giving them away.

On a somewhat relevant tangent, I think Colgan and Mesa are two totally different animals. Colgan is a vestige of the "commuters" era whereas mesa was a major airline operating with the commuter, stepping-stone mindset. Colgan's Saab rates aren't that far off SkyWest's Bro rates, however, with the Q deliveries coming and a contract in the works I hope Colgan shoots for higher rates and salvages their name. I know a lot of good pilots there and plenty of crummy ones at my "top-tier regional" (oxymoron if I've ever spoken one) so I'd advise against painting any pilot group with broad brush stroke.
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
Having been here a few years the stuff you are seeing about Colgan is all true both good and bad (was there any good?)

It has all been factual. If anyone wants a rundown on what its like here just shoot me a PM or any of the other CJC guys and we will be glad to give you the truth about our experiences. They will all vary greatly though whether you are talking to someone who has lived in base since day one, someone who upgraded in 10 months or someone that was hired at the end of the last wave and has two full years of reserve while commuting from the west coast.

If given the choice between most any other regional would I come here...no. With that being said there currently is no choice so it leaves you the option of riding out the storm or applying here to use this place for a few (literally) dollars and some time in the logbook and currency until the next wave happens.

Lets try to keep this as an informative thread before it gets closed (no, I wont close it but someone else likely will.) If you have Colgan questions good, bad or indifferent just ask it regarding current hiring and conditions and they can get answered truthfully.
USMC, I hear you... I am just suggesting that those of you at Colgan do your best to discourage everyone from applying there. You'll be amazed at how quickly things will improve if Colgan can't staff the flying.

just a suggestion...
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:52 PM
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From my understanding of others experiences, Colgan is carefully screening their potential new hires with requirements of high tt and recent multi time. That leads me to believe that they have been swamped with resumes from the whole experience gamut applicants. Also, I don't know this for sure but, after the accident, I would think that Colgan is a much better (safer) palce to work and fly.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:25 PM
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Cause I am sure the company you are furloughed from was so great that they had to furlough their pilots. At least at Colgan we can say we have never furloughed and have grown when most others are failing. I would never trade steady employment for a few dollars in pay and an extra day off. But hey what do I know, I have a job. Enjoy your furlough.

Colgan has furloughed. It furloughed pilots right after 9/11. Do some research on your company next time.
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i got an email from chuck today. he said he reviewed my resume and if i wanted to be considered for a position, to update my airlineapps account and then email the HR lady when i had done so. which i have done. anyone else get this response?
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:41 PM
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i got an email from chuck today. he said he reviewed my resume and if i wanted to be considered for a position, to update my airlineapps account and then email the HR lady when i had done so. which i have done. anyone else get this response?
Please do all the Colgan pilots a favor and withdraw you application from there. The only way to improve their contract and fix this industry is if you do not go there. Everyone else applying for that matter too.

You are not doing yourself or anyone else any good by going to Colgan.
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Originally Posted by winglets
Please do all the Colgan pilots a favor and withdraw you application from there. The only way to improve their contract and fix this industry is if you do not go there. Everyone else applying for that matter too.

You are not doing yourself or anyone else any good by going to Colgan.
why would you assume that i couldn't help them get a fair contract? i am willing to fight alongside current colgan pilots. plus i really doubt they are going to have trouble finding applicants if i withdraw my stuff. i think by going there i could help a lot more than by simply boycotting colgan. now if you could convince every pilot in the US that is looking for work to do this? then i think we'd see some results. and please do not assume to know what career choices will do me any good, you don't know me or my current situation. how about some feedback from actual colgan pilots. would you guys have me pull my app out in hopes of getting a good contract?
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