Colgan Air Hiring FOs for Saab 340 and Q400
#191
For comparison
Eagle pay for a 6 year Saab captain in late 04 was about 50/hr.
Colgan's 6 year pay is 48/hr.
2 bucks an hour. roughly 1800/year. Try not to spend it all in one place.
Eagle pay for a 6 year Saab captain in late 04 was about 50/hr.
Colgan's 6 year pay is 48/hr.
2 bucks an hour. roughly 1800/year. Try not to spend it all in one place.
#192
New Hire
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 7
Thank you...
WOW......out of 182 threads on this topic, 2 were filled with worthwhile information regarding working and the hiring process at Colgan. I appreciate the information contained in those 2 postings. I was recently called by "Chuckie" to interview, I am on furlough from another carrier....great, no one cares. I wanted to make an informed decision about possibly interviewing and working at Colgan. As some of you referred, I am the near the 18-25 age range that they are looking for. But not everyone in the age group is willing to work for substandard rules and compensation.
With that being said, I have decided not to entertain the thought of employment at Colgan. After working at my previous airline, which personally I think is substandard but leaps and bounds beyond Colgan, I've decided and concluded that QOL and expectation of advancement is key in making a decision in the airline industry. For those of you who work for airlines you understand, for those who may be instructing or flying Pt 91, you may think its all bulls*^t.......fine. My advice is to wait, find a job that you would enjoy having, move to your base and fly as much as you can. This industry is all about timing and luck. Best thing is to not leave your current Pt 91 or instructing job cause you can't stand it. Because coming to work, working 12-14 hours for 4 hours of pay is disheartening.
I never really post on these forums because I feel like a lot of the people A) don't know what they are talking about and B) feel like they need to make someone else feel like sh*t to make them feel like their job and life are worth something. Almost all of you are discussing the micro problem in the industry...the regional's and pay...blah blah blah. It has very little to do with the young 18 yr old working for little money, or the regional scum taking away the big bad mainline carriers flying (and don't think I don't understand mainline thinking and paying my dues, etc, my father is a very senior captain for Delta which I discuss these issues with daily), it has to do with society and the way we are evolving and developing. Ehhh, you know what...it's not really worth it because most of you will not get it and the one's who do, already understand it. Don't get me wrong, flying is the best job I could ever have, but I can have just as much fun buying my own airplane and flying around like Joe Schmoe. Well thanks for reading my banter.
PS winglets is partially write but it loses affect the 100th time I read it. You don't need to repeatedly state it.
With that being said, I have decided not to entertain the thought of employment at Colgan. After working at my previous airline, which personally I think is substandard but leaps and bounds beyond Colgan, I've decided and concluded that QOL and expectation of advancement is key in making a decision in the airline industry. For those of you who work for airlines you understand, for those who may be instructing or flying Pt 91, you may think its all bulls*^t.......fine. My advice is to wait, find a job that you would enjoy having, move to your base and fly as much as you can. This industry is all about timing and luck. Best thing is to not leave your current Pt 91 or instructing job cause you can't stand it. Because coming to work, working 12-14 hours for 4 hours of pay is disheartening.
I never really post on these forums because I feel like a lot of the people A) don't know what they are talking about and B) feel like they need to make someone else feel like sh*t to make them feel like their job and life are worth something. Almost all of you are discussing the micro problem in the industry...the regional's and pay...blah blah blah. It has very little to do with the young 18 yr old working for little money, or the regional scum taking away the big bad mainline carriers flying (and don't think I don't understand mainline thinking and paying my dues, etc, my father is a very senior captain for Delta which I discuss these issues with daily), it has to do with society and the way we are evolving and developing. Ehhh, you know what...it's not really worth it because most of you will not get it and the one's who do, already understand it. Don't get me wrong, flying is the best job I could ever have, but I can have just as much fun buying my own airplane and flying around like Joe Schmoe. Well thanks for reading my banter.
PS winglets is partially write but it loses affect the 100th time I read it. You don't need to repeatedly state it.
#194
I do not know where $1200 is coming from, I make more than that as an FO.
$45 for the most junior non-street Saab Captain X 75 hour min = $3375 or $40,500 a year. This is with not working a penny over minimum and never getting per diem for any overnight trip. I was talking to my friend who is based in IAH and an early 2007 hire made $50,000 last year.
Is this great money...NO WAY, it is not even good money, take it for what it is worth
$45 for the most junior non-street Saab Captain X 75 hour min = $3375 or $40,500 a year. This is with not working a penny over minimum and never getting per diem for any overnight trip. I was talking to my friend who is based in IAH and an early 2007 hire made $50,000 last year.
Is this great money...NO WAY, it is not even good money, take it for what it is worth
#195
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: A-320
Posts: 6,929
I wish SAABaroowski was here, I heard he was a Colgan expert
PS They do have Holiday pay, makes the pain of working on one a little less
PS They do have Holiday pay, makes the pain of working on one a little less
#198
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2010
Posts: 93
I don't think anyone is defending Colgan's labor practices.
I understand now why your are so vocal.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...tml#post747156
"I hear you, I was one of those pilots too. I really wish more pilots would have been vocal about this issue though when I was searching I was still content to hold out for something good though and didn't go early to a lower paid regional and waited over a year to get on with someone decent."
You chose to work at a "lower paid regional." Nobody TOLD you not to go to there (or maybe you didn't listen). Maybe you put too much stock in the promises made during the interview, or maybe you got Shiny-I-Just-Don't-Want-to-Instruct-Anymore-Syndrome. I don't know, and frankly I don't care.
The payscales are posted, and several of us have answered specific questions and cited examples of the work rules. We all know Colgan will get plenty of applicants; hopefully, those hired will have made an informed choice.
I understand now why your are so vocal.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...tml#post747156
"I hear you, I was one of those pilots too. I really wish more pilots would have been vocal about this issue though when I was searching I was still content to hold out for something good though and didn't go early to a lower paid regional and waited over a year to get on with someone decent."
You chose to work at a "lower paid regional." Nobody TOLD you not to go to there (or maybe you didn't listen). Maybe you put too much stock in the promises made during the interview, or maybe you got Shiny-I-Just-Don't-Want-to-Instruct-Anymore-Syndrome. I don't know, and frankly I don't care.
The payscales are posted, and several of us have answered specific questions and cited examples of the work rules. We all know Colgan will get plenty of applicants; hopefully, those hired will have made an informed choice.
#200
Now I know why you do not want to say what airline you work for.
YOU WORK FOR MESA.
You are using 2 screen names. There is another member whose name is Winglet who has a picture of an eagle as his avatar. Your name is Winglets and have pictures of 2 eagles as your avatar.
Ya' Busted Son...
Now, quickly deny it and log in as winglet and say you are not the same.
So how is Mesa these days?