Colgan Air Hiring FOs for Saab 340 and Q400
01-20-2010, 11:59 AM
#181
ULTP-Ultra Low Tier Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,228
It's a good thing you're not going because you will not have made it through the interview at Colgan. You are not what Colgan is looking for. They want the 18 to 25 year old that has a good credit with their parents and would be more than willing to take one for the company. You seem like an independent type that values money and yourself, that's not what lower tier regional airlines in general want. They want a warm body. We all would like to admire you, because by waiting for what fits you, you will be happier in the long run.
I find it amazingly ironic that you are telling a pilot to wait and hold out for an airline with strong work rules and a CBA when all the while you work for an airline who was formed on the exact opposite principles to doublecross an airline who wanted them and would fight for them.
01-20-2010, 12:03 PM
#182
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Thrill Seat
Posts: 467
It's good you made that choice. You'll be much happier waiting for a job that at the very least treats you well and doesn't pay so poorly. Ignore AirWillie below. Some of what he says is correct with their motivation on new pilots, but we all should admire your choice. By not going to Colgan you are making a difference and helping bring change one step closer.
AirWillie went to GoJets if that sheds any light on his character.
You should take a page out of stis202's book and quit from GoJets.
You shouldn't even care. You shouldn't even be thinking of going there. Get a real job if your so worried about losing your number at your other airline. It sounds like you think you'll be recalled, which should also tell you not to go to Colgan.
Do the Colgan pilots a favor and don't go there so they have a better chance at getting a decent contract.
AirWillie went to GoJets if that sheds any light on his character.
You should take a page out of stis202's book and quit from GoJets.
You shouldn't even care. You shouldn't even be thinking of going there. Get a real job if your so worried about losing your number at your other airline. It sounds like you think you'll be recalled, which should also tell you not to go to Colgan.
Do the Colgan pilots a favor and don't go there so they have a better chance at getting a decent contract.
With all due respect I know your trying to pass on knowledge however, why are you always the negative one on every forum. I thought for a moment maybe you just had an affinity for Colgan however, you're on Multiple threads being Debbie Downer. Relax be uplifting for once(bashing other regionals is not uplifting) and promote your own Airline and how great it is to work at XYZ carrier. Lifes to short bro your causing me to grow grey hairs when I only come on here for entertainment.
Happy Landings
FL450
01-20-2010, 12:08 PM
#183
ULTP-Ultra Low Tier Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,228
Sir,
With all due respect I know your trying to pass on knowledge however, why are you always the negative one on every forum. I thought for a moment maybe you just had an affinity for Colgan however, you're on Multiple threads being Debbie Downer. Relax be uplifting for once(bashing other regionals is not uplifting) and promote your own Airline and how great it is to work at XYZ carrier. Lifes to short bro your causing me to grow grey hairs when I only come on here for entertainment.
Happy Landings
FL450
With all due respect I know your trying to pass on knowledge however, why are you always the negative one on every forum. I thought for a moment maybe you just had an affinity for Colgan however, you're on Multiple threads being Debbie Downer. Relax be uplifting for once(bashing other regionals is not uplifting) and promote your own Airline and how great it is to work at XYZ carrier. Lifes to short bro your causing me to grow grey hairs when I only come on here for entertainment.
Happy Landings
FL450
01-20-2010, 12:19 PM
#184
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2010
Posts: 93
Sir,
With all due respect I know your trying to pass on knowledge however, why are you always the negative one on every forum. I thought for a moment maybe you just had an affinity for Colgan however, you're on Multiple threads being Debbie Downer. Relax be uplifting for once(bashing other regionals is not uplifting) and promote your own Airline and how great it is to work at XYZ carrier. Lifes to short bro your causing me to grow grey hairs when I only come on here for entertainment.
Happy Landings
FL450
With all due respect I know your trying to pass on knowledge however, why are you always the negative one on every forum. I thought for a moment maybe you just had an affinity for Colgan however, you're on Multiple threads being Debbie Downer. Relax be uplifting for once(bashing other regionals is not uplifting) and promote your own Airline and how great it is to work at XYZ carrier. Lifes to short bro your causing me to grow grey hairs when I only come on here for entertainment.
Happy Landings
FL450
I'm amazed that you and others (Juice) get so upset when people tell the truth about Colgan and its working conditions that you think it is a bash on yourself. I'm trying to HELP YOU.
He clearly has an agenda. Some people get off on sitting in front of their computer causing trouble and acting like a child. I placed him on the "ignore list" because he has zero credibility as far as I am concerned. I suggest you do the same with him and go on with your life, as you said "Lifes to short."
Again, why are you promoting your place? You should be speaking against it. That fact that you don't see that, by telling people to stay away from Colgan will help you get higher pay and better work rules, amazes me and I'm sure countless others.
01-20-2010, 12:24 PM
#185
Day puke
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Out.
Posts: 3,865
And I ask why???
People are taking up issues with the way they treat YOU, the pilots. Stop defending Colgan and start telling people not to go there and why not to. Some of the Colgan pilots are doing that, but I'm amazed that are still some that come on here, all upset, when people talk bad about Colgan's treatment of the pilots.
The best way for the Colgan pilots to get a decent contract is to tell everyone interested in going there to stay FAR FAR away.
People are taking up issues with the way they treat YOU, the pilots. Stop defending Colgan and start telling people not to go there and why not to. Some of the Colgan pilots are doing that, but I'm amazed that are still some that come on here, all upset, when people talk bad about Colgan's treatment of the pilots.
The best way for the Colgan pilots to get a decent contract is to tell everyone interested in going there to stay FAR FAR away.
I understand now why your are so vocal.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...tml#post747156
"I hear you, I was one of those pilots too. I really wish more pilots would have been vocal about this issue though when I was searching I was still content to hold out for something good though and didn't go early to a lower paid regional and waited over a year to get on with someone decent."
You chose to work at a "lower paid regional." Nobody TOLD you not to go to there (or maybe you didn't listen). Maybe you put too much stock in the promises made during the interview, or maybe you got Shiny-I-Just-Don't-Want-to-Instruct-Anymore-Syndrome. I don't know, and frankly I don't care.
The payscales are posted, and several of us have answered specific questions and cited examples of the work rules. We all know Colgan will get plenty of applicants; hopefully, those hired will have made an informed choice.
01-20-2010, 12:54 PM
#186
Tuk er jerbs!
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: B747 Left
Posts: 1,342
I don't think anyone is defending Colgan's labor practices.
I understand now why your are so vocal.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...tml#post747156
"I hear you, I was one of those pilots too. I really wish more pilots would have been vocal about this issue though when I was searching I was still content to hold out for something good though and didn't go early to a lower paid regional and waited over a year to get on with someone decent."
You chose to work at a "lower paid regional." Nobody TOLD you not to go to there (or maybe you didn't listen). Maybe you put too much stock in the promises made during the interview, or maybe you got Shiny-I-Just-Don't-Want-to-Instruct-Anymore-Syndrome. I don't know, and frankly I don't care.
The payscales are posted, and several of us have answered specific questions and cited examples of the work rules. We all know Colgan will get plenty of applicants; hopefully, those hired will have made an informed choice.
I understand now why your are so vocal.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...tml#post747156
"I hear you, I was one of those pilots too. I really wish more pilots would have been vocal about this issue though when I was searching I was still content to hold out for something good though and didn't go early to a lower paid regional and waited over a year to get on with someone decent."
You chose to work at a "lower paid regional." Nobody TOLD you not to go to there (or maybe you didn't listen). Maybe you put too much stock in the promises made during the interview, or maybe you got Shiny-I-Just-Don't-Want-to-Instruct-Anymore-Syndrome. I don't know, and frankly I don't care.
The payscales are posted, and several of us have answered specific questions and cited examples of the work rules. We all know Colgan will get plenty of applicants; hopefully, those hired will have made an informed choice.
01-20-2010, 01:05 PM
#187
Where's my Mai Tai?
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: fins to the left, fins to the right
Posts: 1,754
Some say don't go to Colgan and they will get a better contract. Hold out for a better regional. Why not say, "don't go to a regional with 70+ seat jets, they are taking away mainline jobs."?
Truth be told Colgan is probably at the bottom of any airline that is replacing mainline flights. If people really wanted this industry to get better and pay better, stay away from any RJ that has more than 50 seats in it.
Hypocrites
Truth be told Colgan is probably at the bottom of any airline that is replacing mainline flights. If people really wanted this industry to get better and pay better, stay away from any RJ that has more than 50 seats in it.
Hypocrites
01-20-2010, 01:09 PM
#188
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 120
Thank you for the input everyone....
01-20-2010, 01:12 PM
#189
Tuk er jerbs!
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: B747 Left
Posts: 1,342
Some say don't go to Colgan and they will get a better contract. Hold out for a better regional. Why not say, "don't go to a regional with 70+ seat jets, they are taking away mainline jobs."?
Truth be told Colgan is probably at the bottom of any airline that is replacing mainline flights. If people really wanted this industry to get better and pay better, stay away from any RJ that has more than 50 seats in it.
Hypocrites
Truth be told Colgan is probably at the bottom of any airline that is replacing mainline flights. If people really wanted this industry to get better and pay better, stay away from any RJ that has more than 50 seats in it.
Hypocrites
01-20-2010, 01:20 PM
#190
ULTP-Ultra Low Tier Pilot
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,228
$45 for the most junior non-street Saab Captain X 75 hour min = $3375 or $40,500 a year. This is with not working a penny over minimum and never getting per diem for any overnight trip. I was talking to my friend who is based in IAH and an early 2007 hire made $50,000 last year.
Is this great money...NO WAY, it is not even good money, take it for what it is worth
