Regional Pay Chart Comparison
12-27-2009, 03:52 PM
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Regional Pay Chart Comparison
There's a blog on Do I have a future here? regarding regional pay and how they rank among other regionals. I'm quite surprised at how some of the regionals ranked.
12-27-2009, 04:00 PM
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Interesting data, but keep one thing in mind-you are not comparing apples to apples. Some of these are pay rates for 99 seat jet pay while others are 19 seat turboprop pay. I am not arguing with your data. Just keep that in mind as you interpret it.
12-27-2009, 04:03 PM
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Yeah the blog explained how the data is extrapolated. Basically its based on the cheapest paying airplane which typically are the most junior airplanes (which you are more likely to get hired for). Considering however that most people are qualified to be hired by any of these regionals, and how some people that have worked for companies like Horizon and Expressjet now work for companies like Great Lakes, it's interesting to see the difference.
Some are the same airplanes like this data is based on Horizon's Q400 pay and Colgan's Q400 pay.
Some are the same airplanes like this data is based on Horizon's Q400 pay and Colgan's Q400 pay.
12-27-2009, 09:56 PM
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I wouldn't put to much weight into the graph. It's very possible to work only 75hrs every month or average over 100 hours a month on pay depending different factors.
In 2007 I averaged 105hrs credit a month of pay, blocked 780 hours on the year. This year, with the schedule reductions, only 88 hours of credit a month on average. Even though my hourly rate is $4-5 an hour higher, I made significantly less than 2 years ago.
In 2007 I averaged 105hrs credit a month of pay, blocked 780 hours on the year. This year, with the schedule reductions, only 88 hours of credit a month on average. Even though my hourly rate is $4-5 an hour higher, I made significantly less than 2 years ago.
12-28-2009, 07:35 AM
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What the chart doesn't show (nor could it really) is how work rules and contract affect credits.
What it DOES suggest is chasing a job may not be worth it. If a guy lives in Houston for example, moving or commuting to a Masaba job rather than living in base working for Colgan might not be worth 10k over three years.
12-28-2009, 07:36 AM
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This chart is useless without taking that into account, not to mention work rules...
Holiday Pay
Performance Bonuses
Deadhead Pay
Vacation drops
Rigs (if any)
CANX Pay
Repo Pay
Etc, etc it all adds up.
12-28-2009, 07:40 AM
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It's not that hard to understand, all these graphs are based on your min guarantee pay rate, whatever that maybe. Isn't that what we should all build our lives to live in? After all, maybe some months you'll be able to snag more flying, some months you might want to take it easy. Of course there will be variables, but all this looks at is min pay guarantee. As a wisconsin FO, on second year pay (who works his a** off), I'll clear 50k this year. An example on how to do this? Right now I"m on "vacation" but traded it in for a 4 day that time and half that's worth 23 hours of credit, plus I picked up a one day trip at 6.5 hours. Yeah, it sucks, but this week alone I"ll make about 1,500 bucks.
12-28-2009, 10:13 AM
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At risk of being accused of being a koolaid drinker (I'm not) I'll point out that SKW pay includes bonuses which are probably worth 10-15% above base pay. These kick in over the first three years. I'm know some regionals don't pay a cent over hourly rate, and I know other regionals have similar bonuses.
This chart is useless without taking that into account, not to mention work rules...
Holiday Pay
Performance Bonuses
Deadhead Pay
Vacation drops
Rigs (if any)
CANX Pay
Repo Pay
Etc, etc it all adds up.
This chart is useless without taking that into account, not to mention work rules...
Holiday Pay
Performance Bonuses
Deadhead Pay
Vacation drops
Rigs (if any)
CANX Pay
Repo Pay
Etc, etc it all adds up.
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