RJSAviator76

Husker, stop and think about this for a minute.

You will eventually get your multi time, your jet time, your PIC time. Naturally, you'll want to get paid well for your skill set and experience, right? OK, you're thinking like a pilot so far.

Now, start thinking like a manager.

So Husker is drooling over a big shiny jet right now and is perfectly happy to fly it for $23/hour. Why should we pay experienced guys any more money when Husker is willing to fly it for $23/hour?

We are handicapped by unions AND management. Look up the term whipsaw and you'll see what the airline managements have excelled at in the last several years, and the unions allowed it through the seniority system concept.

The question you have to ask yourself is this: how many times are you willing to start over at $23/hour because I assure you, chances are that you'll have to do it several times.

There comes the time when you stop building flight time, and are looking for a true career position, and yet you'll be handicapped by younger Huskers coming in behind you willing to fly for $23/hour. It's a circle that somehow has to be broken if this is to become a viable profession in the US.

Just a food for thought, bud...

NoHandHold

This just keeps getting uglier and uglier. This new airline smells just like US Airways.

TheBills

I find it funny that people are all over husker. I bet most of you were in the same position he was in, during the hiring boom, the only difference is you guys took the job. Dont forget where you came from. Most of you can hide behind your screen names though. Im just as guilty.

NightIP

For the record I have absolutely nothing bad to say about you JetBlue guys. Great pilot group with solid pay rates from what I've seen. The thing that drives me up the wall is that there is a pilot group who is right now flying the E190 for a really lowball rate. I really honestly hope beyond hope that they're able to get a new contract ratified with competitive pay rates. If they do, great, I'll probably even apply. But until then...

The thing that drives me up the wall is that I don't want to fly 402s for a career. I'd love to get back into a jet, but I simply can't justify taking the pay and QOL cut to do it. It's just so unbelievably wrong that I'd take a pay cut to go from a 9-passenger piston twin to an 89,000+ lb jet; it makes me outright angry, in fact. My career isn't progressing how I'd like it because there are 10 guys lined up ready to say "sir, yes sir!" when even 1 of us decline to work for those wages.

And yes, I was at XJT previously. I'd go back, only because I'd go back at second year pay, which is plenty livable. I did my time on first year poverty wages and learned my lesson. No more. This job just isn't worth that.

iPilot

I, along with many of my friends, stayed with instructing and went to the job that we wanted to go to rather than settling for a run of the mill regional. Not saying I'm holier than thou but we all had choices when it came to where we chose to work. Some of us chose to spend a little longer time instructing and get into a regional where we can actually make a living and be happy for the long haul until the majors.

Of course I'm furloughed while many of my students who went to Brand X Regional are holding lines after being hired with 300 hours. Such is life.

TheBills

But the question must be asked, what if XJT/skywest/Air Wisc/ etc. wouldn't hire you? Is someone just supposed say well couldn't get on with a carrier I wanted so Im done? Republic used to be no different than XJT and Skywest, except now there getting 70 and now 90+ seaters and their pay has not changed (still in contract negotiations) and everybody is pi ssed, as they should be for the time being. It will be fixed though, even BB knows it will need to be fixed, he has stated it several times. Point is we are no better than another pilot because of the company we work for.

dosbo

Even though BB has stated pay rates need to be fixed, I seriously doubt he will make any effort to increase pay untill those 99 (100) seaters are parked by pilots not willing to fly for those wages any longer. I'm sure he will happily drag your contract negotiations out for years if possible.

TheBills

The nice thing is that once republic/frontier/midwest/lynx gets integrated you will have the most experienced pilots in the industry working with the union to form a contract. BB is no longer the CEO of a regional anymore, he will need to figure out a way to make this place more pleasant for his employees to have a good product. He has former CEO sean menke to maybe help him realize that, as menke once had a good airline with good morale. Hopeful thinking I know.

dosbo

As long as BB can keep multiple livery's, supplies feed to mainline, and maintains subpar payscales he will be the CEO of a regional. Midwest has been transformed to a regional during this process (the brand is now worthless), I hope the same does not happen to Frontier. If BB wants to run a major airline he needs to pick a name, paint the planes the same color and get on with business. My opinion is he is quite happy orchestrating the chaos between pilot groups and reaping the benefits.
JO would be proud.

dojetdriver

JO is probably jealous.