XJT undercut AWAC?
11-18-2009, 04:32 PM
#102
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I don't have much time here, as I'm waiting in the food stamp/welfare line, because I don't know if I have to work tomorrow or not, and there's no welfare office near any of the Lucky Strike Motel/Truck stops they put us up in for our 9 hour overnights. I have to trade trips via telegraph, or maybe smoke signals, so I won't be able to move anything around to get this food stamp thing taken care of. I'd call in sick, but they'll hobble my ankles if I do. But, I do have time to say this:
Go do your job, and quit worrying about us. We're fine.
Go do your job, and quit worrying about us. We're fine.
11-19-2009, 08:09 AM
#103
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COEX ie ExpressJet Airlines used to do all of the flying for big cal. We flew all the trurbo props and the jets when they came. So when we became all jet and they brought in other carriers to fly turbo props it hit a nerve. Then they brought in chq to fly the jets and I gotta tell you when I saw Continental Express written down the side of a chq jet, I was not happy. I think there is a lot of emotion in the responses here. Pilots don't see the other companys managers so their emotion is directed at the only people they see that represent said company, the pilots. I see it on here a lot. RAh taking midwest flying gojets etc. I have been a CA for the last 7 years and I can honestly tell you I have never denied a jumpseat to another pilot. When you meet a pilot from any airline in person face to face, I don't think there is any difference between the two of you. Both of you want to do this job make as much money as possibe and have a good quality of life. This industry is pure luck whether you can get through unruffled. We do this because we love to fly. I am guilty of getting emotional on here and saying things on the board. I think we all are. Sometimes it is hard not to. In a perfect world we would all be at one company with one list and all of a stake in our place of business. We were all student pilots once. Lets remember our roots be happy we have a job we love doing, and get home to our wives and families and let all this stupid bickering stop. Fly safe.
11-19-2009, 03:50 PM
#104
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COEX ie ExpressJet Airlines used to do all of the flying for big cal. We flew all the trurbo props and the jets when they came. So when we became all jet and they brought in other carriers to fly turbo props it hit a nerve. Then they brought in chq to fly the jets and I gotta tell you when I saw Continental Express written down the side of a chq jet, I was not happy. I think there is a lot of emotion in the responses here. Pilots don't see the other companys managers so their emotion is directed at the only people they see that represent said company, the pilots. I see it on here a lot. RAh taking midwest flying gojets etc. I have been a CA for the last 7 years and I can honestly tell you I have never denied a jumpseat to another pilot. When you meet a pilot from any airline in person face to face, I don't think there is any difference between the two of you. Both of you want to do this job make as much money as possibe and have a good quality of life. This industry is pure luck whether you can get through unruffled. We do this because we love to fly. I am guilty of getting emotional on here and saying things on the board. I think we all are. Sometimes it is hard not to. In a perfect world we would all be at one company with one list and all of a stake in our place of business. We were all student pilots once. Lets remember our roots be happy we have a job we love doing, and get home to our wives and families and let all this stupid bickering stop. Fly safe.
11-25-2009, 03:21 PM
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11-25-2009, 11:25 PM
#106
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XJT is no AWAC or Horizon either. I think it's funny that people lump the "good" regionals and the "bad" regionals in groups.
The best regional is the one that allows you to get in, get your time, and get out as fast as possible.
The best regional is the one that allows you to get in, get your time, and get out as fast as possible.
11-25-2009, 11:40 PM
#107
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Are you serious?! LoL
Listen up people...anyone who flys or rides in an RJ has participated in the undercutting and salary reductions of the airline industry.
Bottom line...there is no pilot brotherhood, there is no reward for hard work, and skill is not valued. This industry is pretty much FedEx, UPS, Southwest, NetJets or BUST...and even those are not guaranteed. So this industry ecnourages people to take the easiest route possible, and possibly even sacrifice pay to get a job, quick upgrade, and advancement to the good jobs. Of course the good jobs get destroyed every time someone takes these RJ jobs. I can't wait for the 150 seat RJ. And people will celebrate when starting FO's will make $30,000 a year to fly the new "Super RJ." And Captains will max out at $90,000. Thanks RJ pilots!
I HATE "REGIONAL" JETS!
Bottom line...there is no pilot brotherhood, there is no reward for hard work, and skill is not valued. This industry is pretty much FedEx, UPS, Southwest, NetJets or BUST...and even those are not guaranteed. So this industry ecnourages people to take the easiest route possible, and possibly even sacrifice pay to get a job, quick upgrade, and advancement to the good jobs. Of course the good jobs get destroyed every time someone takes these RJ jobs. I can't wait for the 150 seat RJ. And people will celebrate when starting FO's will make $30,000 a year to fly the new "Super RJ." And Captains will max out at $90,000. Thanks RJ pilots!
I HATE "REGIONAL" JETS!
11-26-2009, 02:25 AM
#108
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: rear GV
Posts: 294
Listen up people...anyone who flys or rides in an RJ has participated in the undercutting and salary reductions of the airline industry.
Bottom line...there is no pilot brotherhood, there is no reward for hard work, and skill is not valued. This industry is pretty much FedEx, UPS, Southwest, NetJets or BUST...and even those are not guaranteed. So this industry ecnourages people to take the easiest route possible, and possibly even sacrifice pay to get a job, quick upgrade, and advancement to the good jobs. Of course the good jobs get destroyed every time someone takes these RJ jobs. I can't wait for the 150 seat RJ. And people will celebrate when starting FO's will make $30,000 a year to fly the new "Super RJ." And Captains will max out at $90,000. Thanks RJ pilots!
I HATE "REGIONAL" JETS!
Bottom line...there is no pilot brotherhood, there is no reward for hard work, and skill is not valued. This industry is pretty much FedEx, UPS, Southwest, NetJets or BUST...and even those are not guaranteed. So this industry ecnourages people to take the easiest route possible, and possibly even sacrifice pay to get a job, quick upgrade, and advancement to the good jobs. Of course the good jobs get destroyed every time someone takes these RJ jobs. I can't wait for the 150 seat RJ. And people will celebrate when starting FO's will make $30,000 a year to fly the new "Super RJ." And Captains will max out at $90,000. Thanks RJ pilots!
I HATE "REGIONAL" JETS!
Sounds like the guy that didnt get the job he wanted at a regional level!!
11-26-2009, 04:37 AM
#109
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Nope...took the 135 route after CFIing to ATP mins, BY MY CHOICE because I knrew there was a lot to learn and the regionals would probably just stifle that, during the start of the "hiring boom," or as I like to call the Future Furlough Boom...I had more than a couple opportunities to go to a regional.
11-26-2009, 04:46 AM
#110
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Nope...took the 135 route after CFIing to ATP mins, BY MY CHOICE because I knrew there was a lot to learn and the regionals would probably just stifle that, during the start of the "hiring boom," or as I like to call the Future Furlough Boom...I had more than a couple opportunities to go to a regional.
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