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Old 11-14-2009, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
A little bit off topic but man............your post implies that you are very busy at your flight school. There are like 300 posts on this forum on how flight schools are absolutely "DEAD" and no one is enrolling. Sounds like you got your hands full. Either all the students love you, schools are a little more busy than people would like to think (damn that promised pilot shortage) or flight instructors are really in demand. Hmmmmm.........I wonder........

Don't worry, you would be totally burned out at a regional. Maybe not at the majors or at a really neat corporate set-up. Keep up the hard work.
We train Chinese students, there is always demand. I mean it may dry up some day, I have no idea, right now we have all the business we need.
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocks
Maybe he means 2000 hours of challenging people to duels? In that case...he's got my respect!
Indeed, I've dueled many a worthy adversary, my weapons of choice? Balloons and blunderbusses!

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Old 11-14-2009, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by V1Rotate

No airline seems to be hiring, in fact I'm not sure I could even find another instructor job if I lost this one, but I really need to get out of instructing, and into some sort of transport operation, 121, 135, corporate or fractional, in this country or just about any other. Is there anything out there?
There is always something out there.. Be careful leaving the CFI job with benefits though.. There are 10000 other pilots who would kill for that job..

I agree with the poster who mentioned 3000 hour jobs in 1990s. I started to fly in 1994 and the people with 4000 hours in ACA (you may not remember them) starting their flying career at 13K/year with a bond were considered lucky at the time..

I also suggest that you become a bit more patient with the airline industry.. If you are burned out after 1 year of instructing, what does it say about being burned out after 1 year of (insert other aviation job here) .. Regional careers burn people out too.. Long hours, crap pay, commuting, junior manning, etc. , etc.

Whatever decision you make, I hope the best for ya..
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Old 11-15-2009, 04:44 AM
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Have you considered nursing? How about accounting? ATC? All things I like to think about after my big $700 paychecks.
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jayray
Have you considered nursing? How about accounting? ATC? All things I like to think about after my big $700 paychecks.
Spot on! Career change before it's too late!!
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SkiBum112
Ha! He works at "Fill in the Blank" Airlines, he summed up a regional FOs life pretty well, for any carrier. But since you're gonna live in base, just swap out the 1900 mile commute for 3 hours in bumper to bumper traffic, it works out to about the same.
Precisely.

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Which airline do you work for I will be sure not to go there. No plans to commute, want to live on base.

And actually I planned to "live in base" too. Did, for a while actually. Yea...that was until the second fleet reduction/downgrade and base displacement that occured, that was followed very closely by yet another reduction/downgrade and base displacement that culminated in my furlough. And as an added bonus, each time they publish the results of all those shakeups, they call them "awards." So you get your "base displacement award" or your "furlough award." That's when you know you've made the "big time." I always wondered if maybe I could list those on a job application when it says "list your job-related accomplishments/awards."

All cynicism aside though, just hang in there. I know that we all have to actually experience it before we know whether or not it's as bad as everyone says. And I hope you do get to experience it sooner than later. You never know, things seem to happen at the most unexpected times, in life generally, and in this industry. So hook up the iPod to the headset, settle in for steep turns and teardrop hold entries (again) and wait. Your only other option is to join me, down here on my computer and APC, while my wife goes to work everyday to pay the bills.
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:37 AM
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Who's the pretty lady?
my pretend gf
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by V1Rotate
I make a lower middle class salary with benefits, although a large chunk of that goes to student loans, but I'm miserable.
You will make less money working for most regional airlines. Depending on who you get hired with, you might make less than you make now for 3 or 4 years.

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... but I am having serious thoughts of just leaving the industry. I'm only 24 and never thought I would be this burned out and miserable this early in my career.
After instructing for several years myself, I was no where near burned out until I came to the airlines. If you are burned out now, you might want to rethink it. Flying RJ's might be fun the first 6 months... but after doing this several years it makes my days of flight instructing seem like the best days of my life.

Originally Posted by V1Rotate
No airline seems to be hiring, in fact I'm not sure I could even find another instructor job if I lost this one, but I really need to get out of instructing...
You hit it spot on. There are roughly 9000 pilots on furlough from airlines. The line is long. How bad do you want to wait in line for this "wonderful dream job" that everyone thinks it is. It just isn't worth it anymore.
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by V1Rotate
Which airline do you work for I will be sure not to go there. No plans to commute, want to live on base.

Thanks,

I needed a good laugh. If you plan to live in base just buy a moving van now or make sure all your worldly possesions fit in the trunk of your car. Bases open and close more than you want and change with every contract cycle. If you have a girlfriend or wife I hope she's a gypsy, otherwise she will tire of your lifestyle quickly. I was lucky my wife was a navy brat, she's used to moving.

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