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Old 11-14-2009, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by beech1980
Aw, its sounds like you work for pan am..
You guessed it. Actually they call it TransPac now, but yeah, It sucks.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21
I tried to let it go... I really did... I really really did.... you're telling me you have 1700 hours teaching people to fence? If it was flying I'd think it was dual given... I know it's petty... I tried not to say anything... I just couldn't let it go.
Maybe he means 2000 hours of challenging people to duels? In that case...he's got my respect!

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Old 11-14-2009, 07:36 PM
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I feel your pain; instructing became brutal after a year. I'd never do it again. Try flying jumpers, crop dusting, check flying, traffic, powerline....find a different avenue till the time comes where you can suffer the good life with the rest of us!
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:55 PM
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Do you have a degree? If not, this is the perfect time to go get it. Doesn't seem like anybody will be hiring any time soon.
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Old 11-14-2009, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by V1Rotate
Which airline do you work for I will be sure not to go there. No plans to commute, want to live on base.
Ha! He works at "Fill in the Blank" Airlines, he summed up a regional FOs life pretty well, for any carrier. But since you're gonna live in base, just swap out the 1900 mile commute for 3 hours in bumper to bumper traffic, it works out to about the same.
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Old 11-14-2009, 08:44 PM
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During the recession of the early 1990's it was common to see 3000 hour flight instructors and that recession was much less harsh than the current economic downturn.

My theory is that a pilots overall career satisfaction is in direct correlation with how much dirt they had to eat on the way up the ladder. I had a belly full by the time I reached the regionals and was not to willing to eat any more.

It is entirely possible that it could be many years more before hiring opens up at the instructor level. By then competitive minimums at the regionals could be 5000 hours and previous jet time. I had the lowest time in my regional new hire class with 3800 hours by the time I got hired.

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Old 11-14-2009, 08:57 PM
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The grass isn't greener. I'll trade you in a heart beat.
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The grass isn't greener. I'll trade you in a heart beat.
GREAT avatar! Nice......
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Old 11-14-2009, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bryris
Who's the pretty lady?
HAHHA! LOL! Good one!
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Old 11-14-2009, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by V1Rotate
So here is the deal, I have almost 2000 hours and 1600-1700 duel given. I love to fly, but I am completely burned out on instructing. Watching students try to maintain heading and altitude while hanging the airplane on the prop during slow flight in 115 degree Arizona heat, trying to impress upon my 12th instrument student how to select and execute a proper hold entry, and dealing with the stress and annoyance of endless stagechecks and checkrides (particularly when students fail) is taking it's toll on me.

To make matters worse, I work at a sweat shop, 4 flights a day equates to 12 hours, or more at work, and now they are starting to demand instructors come in on their days off if quotas are not met regardless of whether it is thru any fault of our own. I make a lower middle class salary with benefits, although a large chunk of that goes to student loans, but I'm miserable.

Like I said, I love to fly, and it's hard to see myself doing anything else, but I am having serious thoughts of just leaving the industry. I'm only 24 and never thought I would be this burned out and miserable this early in my career.

No airline seems to be hiring, in fact I'm not sure I could even find another instructor job if I lost this one, but I really need to get out of instructing, and into some sort of transport operation, 121, 135, corporate or fractional, in this country or just about any other. Is there anything out there?
A little bit off topic but man............your post implies that you are very busy at your flight school. There are like 300 posts on this forum on how flight schools are absolutely "DEAD" and no one is enrolling. Sounds like you got your hands full. Either all the students love you, schools are a little more busy than people would like to think (damn that promised pilot shortage) or flight instructors are really in demand. Hmmmmm.........I wonder........

Don't worry, you would be totally burned out at a regional. Maybe not at the majors or at a really neat corporate set-up. Keep up the hard work.
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