Purpleanga

Yea. The same airline that had no problem flying 15 airplanes which were borrowed from AMR that could have been taken away at any time like they eventually were. No growth for 5 years because of extra leases? Unbelievable.

DryMotorBoatin

Way to treat us like real human beings TSA.

Herbie

Can't really say that I am too shocked that this all fell through. As always, only the bad rumors are true. What a way to treat people, especially when you expect them to return at some point. I would rather fly a kite than for TSA.

brottman

So does this mean that everyone that ended up deferring are now below everyone that accepted the recall when another one comes? The wording of the letter said "If you choose to defer your recall you will remain furloughed until a mandatory recall."

I sure hope when the next recall comes it was as if this never happened.

minimwage4

After this episode, I doubt people will come back next time if there ever will be one.

We really do have morons in charge. Where is XJET on this? How come they didn't send recall letters a week before like we "had" to?

We'll see you at the picket lines!!

mking84

XJET is NOT TSA.

This is truly pathetic.....I cannot imagine how demoralizing this is for TSA furloughs and downgrades.

JayHub

I'd like to know what xjets notice policy is per their CBA. Our contract at TSA demands a 30 day notice of recall if I remember correctly....so yeah I buy that they had to send out notices. What pi**es me off is that they did not tell us they were still working on the deal. Why hide the fact?

You know this whole recall notice came about during contract negotiations.

minimwage4

I wonder how they're going to spin this at the negotiating table. We didn't get the flying so we can't afford to pay you decent wages. Burn it down Waterskiers! This is the beginning of the end for TSA. It's going to continue to shrink while Gojet will double and eventually takeover.

blastoff

Basically 24 days...but I don't know why we'd need to recall in November for flying in May.

From the XJT CBA:

2. After delivery of a recall notice, a pilot will have 10 days to notify the Company
in writing that he is accepting recall or is electing to defer. A pilot will have at
least 14 days after acceptance of recall to report for duty. A pilot may defer
recall without forfeiting his seniority rights provided there is a furloughed pilot
junior to him on the seniority list. A pilot who elects to defer recall is not eligible
for pay protection from that deferral. He will return only as vacancies occur in
accordance with seniority.

Purpleanga

So let me get this straight before I dive into alcoholism this weekend, because I seriously can't belive they allowed this to slip away. TSA, an airline that has been downsizing for the past year and a half, which will most likely be be integrated or cease ops in a year or two now with the possibility of a pilot strike, actually came within second and quite possibly first in line with the opportunity to get a 5 year 50 seat contract with United, out of 9 airlines!?!?!?!?
But they didn't agree with the final contract(during this economic period of all things) because they might have had to pay their own leases two more years after the deal was up in 2015!!!
And they couldn't get good rates for those two years???? How much do you think a 50 seat RJ will be worth in 7 years, TSA??? And in re-negotiations of leases with UA for more flying????
A King Air will be worth more than a 50 seat ERJ in 2016/2017!!!

If they didn't feel comfortable with this, what the F else could they be comfortable with? They take pride in being conservative but they're not doing a very good job consideirng half the pilot work force is about gone. When will TSA managment be willing to take a risk? When the stars align??? Sorry for my drunken rant, it feels like we all took a great big company punch in the gut with this. The level of disrespect for the employees is just unbelievable. I'll see you guys later. Looks like our only hope is a long battle with the company to take back what's ours in negotiations.