TSA Recalls?
11-13-2009, 10:11 AM
#171
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Well I think that's a given. I'm saying that at this point united cares about the price. Right now, there are enough pilots available, furloughed and street, and airplanes can be found. I sincerely doubt tsa would allow a strike to happen, because as I understand it we don't have outrageous demands just industry standard ones, it's going to be a last minute deal on the last hour as usual. They're telling UA whatever they want to hear. And I'm sure that Hulas whether he gets this or not knows that he can't delay the negotiations much longer anyways.
11-13-2009, 06:52 PM
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I am not surprised at all
The official memo:
The official memo:
From: The president R. L.
Date: November 13, 2009
RE: United RFP
We were notified today that we were unsuccessful in our effort to secure flying under the recent United Airlines
RFP. This disappointing outcome was despite providing United a low cost, highly competitive bid. The costs
required by United as well as some of the flexibility on the length of the agreement would have provided
substantial risk to Trans States. As I have said many times in the past, we are looking for opportunities to grow,
but only where such growth would be beneficial to the company. In this case, we could not agree to the terms
United required and realize sufficient levels of value to our company.
United did say that we offered a very competitive proposal which allowed us to be one of the final two out of
nine initial bidders for this RFP. They also indicated that our high quality service and our low costs , coupled with
the value we continue to bring to the partnership, make this a very difficult decision. They reconfirmed their
commitment to our partnership and the value we continue to bring them now and in the years to come, both on
our current flying as well as any future opportunities which may arise.
Unfortunately, this decision will result in us rescinding the recent furlough recall we initiated last week. We regret
that we will be unable to follow-through with our recalls at this time. Because of the delivery schedule required
by United and the notification requirements of our ALPA agreement, we had no choice but to send the recall
notices while still waiting for final word from United. If we could have waited until final word was given before
issuing the recalls, we would have. Unfortunately, timing did not allow that to be our course of action. We notified
ALPA leadership of our intent from the very beginning of the recall process and thank them for their cooperation
and understanding during this time. We sincerely apologize for any disruption this may have caused to our
furloughed pilots.
I know this is a major disappointment to many of our employees and again I am disappointed we were unable to
bring this process to a winning conclusion. Please rest assured we will continue to work towards finding ways to
profitably grow Trans States Airlines as well as return our furloughed pilots to work as soon as possible.
Thank you for your continued support and I will keep you posted on further opportunities as they develop.
Date: November 13, 2009
RE: United RFP
We were notified today that we were unsuccessful in our effort to secure flying under the recent United Airlines
RFP. This disappointing outcome was despite providing United a low cost, highly competitive bid. The costs
required by United as well as some of the flexibility on the length of the agreement would have provided
substantial risk to Trans States. As I have said many times in the past, we are looking for opportunities to grow,
but only where such growth would be beneficial to the company. In this case, we could not agree to the terms
United required and realize sufficient levels of value to our company.
United did say that we offered a very competitive proposal which allowed us to be one of the final two out of
nine initial bidders for this RFP. They also indicated that our high quality service and our low costs , coupled with
the value we continue to bring to the partnership, make this a very difficult decision. They reconfirmed their
commitment to our partnership and the value we continue to bring them now and in the years to come, both on
our current flying as well as any future opportunities which may arise.
Unfortunately, this decision will result in us rescinding the recent furlough recall we initiated last week. We regret
that we will be unable to follow-through with our recalls at this time. Because of the delivery schedule required
by United and the notification requirements of our ALPA agreement, we had no choice but to send the recall
notices while still waiting for final word from United. If we could have waited until final word was given before
issuing the recalls, we would have. Unfortunately, timing did not allow that to be our course of action. We notified
ALPA leadership of our intent from the very beginning of the recall process and thank them for their cooperation
and understanding during this time. We sincerely apologize for any disruption this may have caused to our
furloughed pilots.
I know this is a major disappointment to many of our employees and again I am disappointed we were unable to
bring this process to a winning conclusion. Please rest assured we will continue to work towards finding ways to
profitably grow Trans States Airlines as well as return our furloughed pilots to work as soon as possible.
Thank you for your continued support and I will keep you posted on further opportunities as they develop.
11-13-2009, 07:07 PM
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Damn. No matter who dropped the ball (can't tell from this information), the fact that UA expects a regional to ramp up so quickly is just indicative that no one has a clue what is going to happen around the next curve. Its seems this sort of thing should have a lead time associated with it to formally get all the ducks in a row.
No matter how this whole thing is sugar coated by Leach and his cronies, it just exemplifies the TOTAL lack of professionalism by all involved.
No matter how this whole thing is sugar coated by Leach and his cronies, it just exemplifies the TOTAL lack of professionalism by all involved.
11-13-2009, 07:09 PM
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11-13-2009, 07:13 PM
#180
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I'm not convinced that the recall notices were necessary. If they were, and the other company bidding had a similar contract to ours, they would have had to send out their notices too...unless they're insanely overstaffed. TSA management completely blew this and I'm ****ed. I still have a job but there are others out there who just got jerked around so badly, it's unbelievable.
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