LastTraintoMEM

First: I am not "predicting" anything, but looking at facts and numbers of the US economy. Get off this web site and do some research! It's out there. There will be no hiring until the economy turns around, and from what I have researched that will not be anytime soon, if at all!
Second: I didn't know I was applying for a job that required me to be qualified to express my view.
Third: I hope I am wrong! I really do, and please feel free to prove me wrong. Don't just shoot the messenger, shoot my argument. Making snide comments towards me and my credibility is a poor argument for your case. I know we don't want to hear all our training, investment and dreams are for naught, but be realistic. Get a job ANYWHERE, and keep looking for a flying job. (That is what I am doing). There are no predictions, just numbers. Like I said before, numbers don't lie!

xjtr

Wow. This is sad. What a waste. I'm sure at least half of these "qualified jobs" would be saved if RAH pilots were allowed to fly these planes for $23 an hour. Netjets FO pay rates of $60+ an hour was clearly excessive. I mean, for 5 seater jets?? We fly 100 seaters for much less!! What a wasted opportunity..

NoHandHold

My ultimate point folks is that in 3-4 years there will be a whirlwind of movement, this stuff is not hard to figure out. It is cyclical, the next upturn/hiring boom is around the corner. Just be patient.


Sure don't.

lear 31 pilot

No wonder this country is going downhill look at all this doomsday crap going on. We will recover, people will start flying again and yes the Goverment is spending tons of money, but the last administration wasnt exactly thrifty with our money either. If we would stop watching the 24 hour news channels I guarantee we would see a significant improvement in our economy. Its not all bad either, stocks are cheap and housing is finally down to reasonable level were people can actually afford a house without going broke. As for all this worry of being laid off I have been worrying about it for the last 2 years and am sick of it, I have quit worrying about it and am enjoying what I have right now. Good luck to all those laid off, I may be one of you tommorow.

Diver Driver

Thanks, I stand corrected. Was going off my last ALPA email.. lol

SkyHigh

Every year something like 8500 to 10,000 new commercial pilots are minted in the US. The military is also collectively producing something like 1500 new pilots per year. There is already a massive backlog of pilots who have been waiting to get recalled since 9-11. The human mass of experienced pilots is backing up big time.

It might be true that eventually retirements could reach 2000 per year but even at its height it is still woefully short of how many pilots that are building up daily awaiting a good job.

When hiring does resume someone is going to get hired but it does not really mean that anyone can count on it being them. It will be a drag out fist fight where seasoned regional captains have to stand in line behind space shuttle captains, the chief pilots son and blue angles.

2000 new hires per year after nearly two decades of waiting is not much at all. The bottom line is that it is still a long shot.

Skyhigh

AmericanIdiot#1

What's wrong with 24/7 news service? Is there any other way to form an "educated" opinion?

Twin Wasp

"Some of the smaller cargo carriers listed might not be subject to the Age 65 rule."

Why would't a 121 carrier be subject to 121 rules?

And Atlas is down to about 45 pilots furloughed. A bunch more F/Es.

LavChange

I think there will be a pilot shortage of some sort, but not until age 65 begins to retire. I think that is 2012 or something so settle in where ever you are.

exwaterski

LMAO. I can't believe you really said that.