Even more qualified pilots on the street...
11-07-2009, 05:15 PM
#91
Che Guevara
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,408
What point? That if there's going to be government intervention then there should be government subsidies?
The while back we held for almost an hour, very close to diverting to the alternate, going to EWR. Had I bed 30+ aircraft on freq having to hold. Speedbird on down. Finally an AMR guy came on and said he called his wife and found out that Joe Biden was having a fund raiser in New York so the whole airspace shut down. People were diverting left and right. A fundraiser! I wonder how much money the airlines blew because someone wanted to go to a fundraiser.
This is one of the few industries where we live and die by the governments rules. Tomorrow they could say the 737 is unsafe and must be grounded and we'd have no choice.
The while back we held for almost an hour, very close to diverting to the alternate, going to EWR. Had I bed 30+ aircraft on freq having to hold. Speedbird on down. Finally an AMR guy came on and said he called his wife and found out that Joe Biden was having a fund raiser in New York so the whole airspace shut down. People were diverting left and right. A fundraiser! I wonder how much money the airlines blew because someone wanted to go to a fundraiser.
This is one of the few industries where we live and die by the governments rules. Tomorrow they could say the 737 is unsafe and must be grounded and we'd have no choice.
11-07-2009, 08:57 PM
#93
Self Employed.
Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Corporate Pilot
Posts: 7,119
The future
No matter what the future of aviation will be very different from its past. Our industry has gone through a massive upheaval over the last 8 years. Where the chips fall no one really knows.
I don't think that anyone should count themselves out nor should anyone think that they have got it made either. There will be jobs in the future and if a pilots only concern is to be able to fly a plane then I don't think that they have anything to worry about. However if you want to be able to preserve a family life and financial security then that is another matter entirely.
If you are young and unattached then you had better hope that wages continue to fall and working conditions to deteriorate, because there are thousands upon thousands of experienced pilots on the sidelines who will materialize out of the woodwork to rejoin the industry if conditions improve.
Skyhigh
I don't think that anyone should count themselves out nor should anyone think that they have got it made either. There will be jobs in the future and if a pilots only concern is to be able to fly a plane then I don't think that they have anything to worry about. However if you want to be able to preserve a family life and financial security then that is another matter entirely.
If you are young and unattached then you had better hope that wages continue to fall and working conditions to deteriorate, because there are thousands upon thousands of experienced pilots on the sidelines who will materialize out of the woodwork to rejoin the industry if conditions improve.
Skyhigh
11-09-2009, 06:33 AM
#99
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: At the Blue Line
Posts: 244
Sure, maybe every pilot will be sucked up from the street one day. They maybe hiring guys in diapers again. But do you think they are going to pay anybody a livable wage? The reason for the last hiring boom was because the airlines figured out how to take advantage of their cheap help. Sell tickets below a normal cost to pay the bills; the pilots will always fly for close to nothing. Just being a pilot is nothing unless you can pay your bills. Just YOU wait and see.
Agreed!
11-09-2009, 06:53 AM
#100
Never fly
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: 330B
Posts: 163
The combined delta/nwa seniority list will lose more than 600 pilots in 2012 when they turn 65, and it goes up exponetially from there. And thats from a guy in the top 20 that flies the 400 in dtw. like others said hang in there, dont give up. The movement may not come as fast as we want, but it is coming.
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