Pilot Pay
#51
Bottom line... I don't mind if people argue about facts, merits, etc. but it really peeves me when some people have nothing to add other than throwing the socialist moniker around like that's a basis for discussion. Or calling Moore a "d-bag", etc. Politics and over-simplified ideology really dumb down these threads. Maybe it's just me. I've never been into ideology. We're all in the same profession and should stick together on this. Or, at the very least, argue about the facts of Moore's movie and not divisive ideology. Why quibble over a word?
Politics will always be a tug of war between conflicting sides. The problem is that most folks lack a basic understanding of the macro system and what causes the current system (flawed as it is) to operate. Too many people are voting on feelings and looks and ability to give a smooth sounding speech (regardless of content).
#52
so you guys would be ok with those nut jobs probably saying the same thing michael moore said?!?! seems if someone makes a good point and publicizes something you believe in you should probably support them; not hope that someone else you like says the same thing....
#53
Hi!
Congress may help us get the pay up. The House is "soon" (don't know what that means) to vote on the bill re: crew rest, pilot records, a bunch of other stuff, and making the ATP a minimum for a -121 new hire. If it passes (and I am hopeful-just wrote to my rep), then even Mesa will have to hire a guy who has at least 1500 hours TT. I do not see how that will NOT increase the pay!
cliff
NBO
Congress may help us get the pay up. The House is "soon" (don't know what that means) to vote on the bill re: crew rest, pilot records, a bunch of other stuff, and making the ATP a minimum for a -121 new hire. If it passes (and I am hopeful-just wrote to my rep), then even Mesa will have to hire a guy who has at least 1500 hours TT. I do not see how that will NOT increase the pay!
cliff
NBO
#54
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If the "statistical oddity" part applied to anybody it's that UPS guy who has been posting so much anti-Moore stuff.
These days I think of myself as more of an Independent than a Republican, but not a Socialist.
Last edited by Lab Rat; 10-14-2009 at 06:53 AM.
#55
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Hi!
Congress may help us get the pay up. The House is "soon" (don't know what that means) to vote on the bill re: crew rest, pilot records, a bunch of other stuff, and making the ATP a minimum for a -121 new hire. If it passes (and I am hopeful-just wrote to my rep), then even Mesa will have to hire a guy who has at least 1500 hours TT. I do not see how that will NOT increase the pay!
cliff
NBO
Congress may help us get the pay up. The House is "soon" (don't know what that means) to vote on the bill re: crew rest, pilot records, a bunch of other stuff, and making the ATP a minimum for a -121 new hire. If it passes (and I am hopeful-just wrote to my rep), then even Mesa will have to hire a guy who has at least 1500 hours TT. I do not see how that will NOT increase the pay!
cliff
NBO
The House is "soon" (don't know what that means)
#56
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You dont like the pay....... Quit and get a different job that pays you what you believe you're worth. Dont want to quit because you love flying and being an airline pilot....... Stop complaining..... You chose that career and no one put a gun to your head and told you to be a regional pilot.
Go get another job? You want me to start over doing something different? I trained for this my entire adult life. You want me to spend another 25 years honing skills to be doing something else so that I can get it figured out when I'm 70?
I haven't earned much in this industry, but I've DARNED WELL earned the right to complain about what has been done to us.
You sound just like Glenn Tilton; not something I'd be proud of.
#58
You dont like the pay....... Quit and get a different job that pays you what you believe you're worth. Dont want to quit because you love flying and being an airline pilot....... Stop complaining..... You chose that career and no one put a gun to your head and told you to be a regional pilot.
#59
You dont like the pay....... Quit and get a different job that pays you what you believe you're worth. Dont want to quit because you love flying and being an airline pilot....... Stop complaining..... You chose that career and no one put a gun to your head and told you to be a regional pilot.
#60
What we do need for our profession to come back is for our mainline friends to lock up scope. If it's a US flight, it needs to be US pilots. Get rid of the regionals all together, and stop the whipsawing. I would rather be a furloughed Airways guy with a name on their seniority list that still sitting at a regional hoping they start to hire again.
Mainline guys, Do everything you can to get back your flying. If it's a 1900 you should be flying it. Start by getting the pay for those aircraft in you contract.
Mainline guys, Do everything you can to get back your flying. If it's a 1900 you should be flying it. Start by getting the pay for those aircraft in you contract.
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