Pilot Pay
10-12-2009, 03:02 PM
#31
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You dont like the pay....... Quit and get a different job that pays you what you believe you're worth. Dont want to quit because you love flying and being an airline pilot....... Stop complaining..... You chose that career and no one put a gun to your head and told you to be a regional pilot.
10-12-2009, 03:37 PM
#32
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10-12-2009, 07:09 PM
#33
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You dont like the pay....... Quit and get a different job that pays you what you believe you're worth. Dont want to quit because you love flying and being an airline pilot....... Stop complaining..... You chose that career and no one put a gun to your head and told you to be a regional pilot.
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You can whine about the pay, your whole career, or actually do something about it. Management certainly doesn't care what you get paid, passengers don't care, the public at large doesn't care. Your coworkers don't even care. So learn to like the wage, or leave.
10-12-2009, 07:14 PM
#34
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Michael Moore is a "socialist" because he wants us to get better wages, manufacturing jobs back in the US, the middle class to be restored and a practical end to the "robber barons" by re-regulation?
Pilots need to get a better grip of their own destinies by holding their local MECs, and ALPA's feet to the fire. Moore's documentary points out the situation with our wages, and it's time to perhaps cowboy up to the Union leadership, whether or not we like Michael Moore... maybe the race to the bottom should end.
Isn't it time to get on our local representatives/Senators to get rid of the RLA and let us be like every other Union Employee in the USA? I think so. How do we get that going?
Pilots need to get a better grip of their own destinies by holding their local MECs, and ALPA's feet to the fire. Moore's documentary points out the situation with our wages, and it's time to perhaps cowboy up to the Union leadership, whether or not we like Michael Moore... maybe the race to the bottom should end.
Isn't it time to get on our local representatives/Senators to get rid of the RLA and let us be like every other Union Employee in the USA? I think so. How do we get that going?
10-12-2009, 08:15 PM
#36
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The reason people signed on for crap pay in the regionals is they thought it would be temporary. Now, we realize that a regional FO is a career position. This needs to be stated again and again. Maybe ALPA should advertise this in mags to counter the BS from the pilot mills, potentially lessening the supply of new pilots.
10-12-2009, 10:21 PM
#37
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The reason people signed on for crap pay in the regionals is they thought it would be temporary. Now, we realize that a regional FO is a career position. This needs to be stated again and again. Maybe ALPA should advertise this in mags to counter the BS from the pilot mills, potentially lessening the supply of new pilots.
10-13-2009, 07:07 AM
#38
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Irregardless of Michael Moore, I disagree with you that Pilot Pay has anything to do with socialism. It really does have to do with capitalism. It's a basic supply and demand. There's more pilots willing to work and willing to work for less than there is a demand. That's why you have companies paying 17,000 a year to a 20 year old FO because they can. And there's no shortage of people willing to sign up.
10-13-2009, 08:13 AM
#39
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Dawg hows the family?
10-13-2009, 08:14 AM
#40
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To those who want to be paid more...
You are only worth what you can negotiate into your CBA. If pilots want higher pay, put it in writing. Go to LEC and MEC meetings, vote for negotiators that understand that pay is what you want, don't vote for any TA that doesn't have a pay raise, and strike if needed!
We don't need to deal with it or get out of the job. We need to unite and take back our industry. Complaining on internet forums and even getting the sympathy of Michael Moore won't help our case. We are the only ones who can change our future. Stop being the apathetic pilot and blaming every one else for our situation. Take some responsibility and get involved!
You are only worth what you can negotiate into your CBA. If pilots want higher pay, put it in writing. Go to LEC and MEC meetings, vote for negotiators that understand that pay is what you want, don't vote for any TA that doesn't have a pay raise, and strike if needed!
We don't need to deal with it or get out of the job. We need to unite and take back our industry. Complaining on internet forums and even getting the sympathy of Michael Moore won't help our case. We are the only ones who can change our future. Stop being the apathetic pilot and blaming every one else for our situation. Take some responsibility and get involved!
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