Regional pilots shown in Capitalism movie
#91
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Or just think of it like teachers and many, but not all cops. The pay sucks, too bad.
#93
Those who work and produce something of value, screw the lids on the jars, fly airplanes, sweep side walks, etc are the ones making society a better place. These people will always need to be paid a fair compensation DIRECTLY for their efforts - an element that is missing in the socialist plan. Those who basically do nothing of value except flip houses, buy low/sell high, etc just consume the fruits of society. It is this absence of intrinsic worth that will always burst in the end.
Sounds like the Nozickian Rights Theory.
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TAXES.
If anyone needs ONE reason as to why the middle class is shrinking then one needs to look no further than the issue of taxes. And that is not just my opinion either. Take a look at your pay stubs and see how much is being taken out compared to how much you gross.
The solution is very simple and the numbers speak for themselves. Eliminate ALL sources of income tax and institute a national sales tax instead. If you want fair then there is not a more fair way to do this since everyone is paying the same percentage.
The middle class isn't shrinking because of capitalism, it is shrinking because of taxes (i.e., bigger government).
If anyone needs ONE reason as to why the middle class is shrinking then one needs to look no further than the issue of taxes. And that is not just my opinion either. Take a look at your pay stubs and see how much is being taken out compared to how much you gross.
The solution is very simple and the numbers speak for themselves. Eliminate ALL sources of income tax and institute a national sales tax instead. If you want fair then there is not a more fair way to do this since everyone is paying the same percentage.
The middle class isn't shrinking because of capitalism, it is shrinking because of taxes (i.e., bigger government).
#95
I couldn't disagree more, it has been the stagnant middle class wages. You can high higher taxes and still have a growing economy, which history has proven to be true. When you don't trickle enough money down to the middle class, the class that buys everything, you create an imbalance that causes very harsh economic effects. We saw it in the late 1920s and we are seeing it again now. I think people tend to take their own personal dislike of taxes and somehow try to connect it as to why we are struggling. I don't think we pay too much in taxes, I think the richest top 1 or 2% pays too little.
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What do you mean by "trickle enough money down to the middle class"? Would this happen through high taxes imposed by the government on the upper class being paid to those who have less though government programs or projects? If so, why should the government do this and not private industry?
#97
Of course I want more, I'm human right? I will not give credability to someone who wants Europeon Socialism. I am an American, not an whiny French ***. Michael Moore will never speak for me.
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Yes we are Americans! Socialism is reserved for the rich! I will not give credibility to someone that can't spell credibility, or European.
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I couldn't disagree more, it has been the stagnant middle class wages. You can high higher taxes and still have a growing economy, which history has proven to be true. When you don't trickle enough money down to the middle class, the class that buys everything, you create an imbalance that causes very harsh economic effects. We saw it in the late 1920s and we are seeing it again now. I think people tend to take their own personal dislike of taxes and somehow try to connect it as to why we are struggling. I don't think we pay too much in taxes, I think the richest top 1 or 2% pays too little.
When was the last time a poor guy offered you a good job? If you're flying for a living and making a decent wage, you probably work for a large airline, cargo hauler or wealthy corporation. Lower taxes across the board, and let the people who really drive this economy bring it back.
Government involvement always screws things up, (see; DMV, FAA, IRS for examples). The 1920's-30's melee was driven by the government, and prolonged with F.D.R.'s ridiculous socialist ideas that we're still living with today.
Why are so many people shocked that regional pilots have bad wages and little quality of life? It's always been that way at smaller arilines. Have they ever read "Fate Is The Hunter" by Earnest K. Gann? (Should be required reading at all flight schools)
Look, I'm not a foaming at the mouth-rabid Michael Moore hater. He's an entertainer, and has a talent for stirring things up. I just don't like an obviously rich, out of shape Canadian telling America they have bad health and are too rich.
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