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Old 09-09-2009, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga
It's another form of SH's airline "malingering." He just wants to make sure everyone thinks the ship is sinking so when it comes time for more disappointing results on RFP bids and Delta block hours, he doesn't have to be held accountable. Then, he can point to the emails of doom and gloom he sent out once a month talking about how the airline skies are falling and say its not ASAs fault. Then, Brad will come out with a weekly update thanking ASA front line employees for their dedicated hard work and promising that more downsizing and job loss is going to position ASA for a better future. Then, we can all go on to said weekly update comments section and read FA peanut gallery cheers about go ASA, thanks brad, and git-r-done.
That's so accurate it's actually quite hilarious.
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:04 PM
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To be hoest, I would totally vote for PBS if it meant another domicile and more flying for ASA. I woud NEVER take a pay cut to "keep my job." If he company ever suggested that, I would do whatever it took to take them down... patch of cord at a time.

I know Scott Hall is a major blasting douche rocket, but is there actually potential of more flying elsewhere? I highly doubt it... Mesa, Colgan, GoJet, or Great Lakes will take it.

We might be a GREAT airline, and a SAFE airline, but who really gives a crap about that... if flying Mesa can save them $0.000000001, then they will do it, risking their lies on some random PHX, CLT or ORD to wherever flight.

Again, I've been drinking.
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Old 09-10-2009, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht
PBS is a lock if they can guarantee vacation stretching ( like always ), quality of life will improve, integration days go away, and bring back the furloughs...if not....ABSOLUTELY no chance
I'd love to hear some details on how we can get all of that AND bring the furloughs back with PBS. PBS will create a need for less pilots, not more pilots (through greater efficiency). So basically you're saying you'll never vote for PBS.
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:23 AM
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That was the purposed idea, as brought by SH in Ground ( I know BS ), but he stated that with PBS there would be no need for integration days due to the fact that it should take care of transition pairings from month to month. This, to me, would add to quality of life because you now can actually plan to have a life as a line holder on the first 3-4 days of the month. They would in turn need more pilots to cover the pbs schedules, which should bring a few back. Agreed it's a stretch, but would that be something you might be interested in ?
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp
I'd love to hear some details on how we can get all of that AND bring the furloughs back with PBS. PBS will create a need for less pilots, not more pilots (through greater efficiency). So basically you're saying you'll never vote for PBS.
I thought PBS typically drops the need for pilots 10%? I don't see any other purpose for management's push for this other than cutting more pilots.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by StallFail
This is a company e-mail I just recieved from Scott Hall at ASA...

Sept. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Delta Air Lines Inc. and the other big U.S. carriers are poised to make more cuts in available seats as the summer travel season ends this weekend, capping the industry’s deepest retrenchment since World War II.

Why does he send doom and gloom e-mails to employees? We all know conditions are bad right now. Is he trying to get morale so low that we take a reduction in pay? I don't get it... Why beat a dead horse? What is the point of this? I guess I'm just ranting here... and drinking.

Getting back to the origins of this thread. Wonder why you never hear Scott posting anything about articles like this...

UAL Leads Gains for Airlines After JPMorgan Says Buy (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

Truth is things are about to swing back in the pilot's favor and Scott is pushing for PBS before he loses his good negotiating position with the industry in the tank. Just trying be a glass is half full type, it will come back around and hopefully sooner than later.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:31 PM
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SCARE TACTIC. Come on! Are you telling me its impossible to schedule crews efficiently enough that we're not sitting 2-4 hrs between flights?

The majors have the proposed regulations already built into their contract. I don't see them with 100% 10 off lines.

BTW, nice find MaxPower
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht
That was the purposed idea, as brought by SH in Ground ( I know BS ), but he stated that with PBS there would be no need for integration days due to the fact that it should take care of transition pairings from month to month. This, to me, would add to quality of life because you now can actually plan to have a life as a line holder on the first 3-4 days of the month. They would in turn need more pilots to cover the pbs schedules, which should bring a few back. Agreed it's a stretch, but would that be something you might be interested in ?
If Scott told you PBS would cause ASA to need more pilots, he lied to your face. Why would they want it then? Just because he's such a nice guy and wants to make our lives batter by making integration go away? No, because it will streamline the operation and save the company millions.
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:49 AM
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And speaking of which, Scott really turned up the "misery index" with the OCT lines, didn't he? I'm sure that PBS's last stand and the union elections had NOTHING to do with it. The beatings will continue until morale improves!
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