Another 13 Saabs to leave Mesaba in 2009
09-09-2009, 08:53 AM
#63
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When are their contracts up?
Skywest/ASA is 2020.
Pinnacle's is 2017.
That will be a while until either of those get reductions in 50 seaters, unless they are exchanges for 900's (which they can't current due to scope) or they fail to meet performance goals. Look at how much hassle MESA has been for Delta to get rid of. Reduction will come from the wholly owns.
You heard it hear first folks. Sorry for the bad news.
Little hint fellas..There is a reason no 200's have gone to paint...
Skywest/ASA is 2020.
Pinnacle's is 2017.
That will be a while until either of those get reductions in 50 seaters, unless they are exchanges for 900's (which they can't current due to scope) or they fail to meet performance goals. Look at how much hassle MESA has been for Delta to get rid of. Reduction will come from the wholly owns.
You heard it hear first folks. Sorry for the bad news.
Little hint fellas..There is a reason no 200's have gone to paint...
Go troll at your thread instead of lurking in here spreading false rumors.
FYI, don't think those DCI contracts with SkyWest is ironclad. DAL is not shy about finding loopholes or finding any excuse to break them.
09-09-2009, 08:55 AM
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You heard it hear first folks. That's all I have to say.
Enjoy your day.
- The Falang
Oh yeah..Name one contract they've broke so far..yep thats right Mesa's STILL in court. 1 year later. Please brah.
Also the only ones painted in DELTA colors are Comair..Sweet no ACARS or ISIS. Cage that bad boy
Enjoy your day.
- The Falang
Oh yeah..Name one contract they've broke so far..yep thats right Mesa's STILL in court. 1 year later. Please brah.
Also the only ones painted in DELTA colors are Comair..Sweet no ACARS or ISIS. Cage that bad boy
09-09-2009, 09:01 AM
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Yeah, I guess we'll see happens. Don't say I did not warn you about other DCI carrier contracts. Expect to see DAL DCI carriers down from 8 drastically.
09-09-2009, 09:08 AM
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If I had a Dollar everytime some anonymous poster who is not even a XJ pilot who chimes in to just to let others know how clever he is, I'd be a rich man indeed.
Yeah, I guess we'll see happens. Don't say I did not warn you about other DCI carrier contracts. Expect to see DAL DCI carriers down from 8 drastically.
Yeah, I guess we'll see happens. Don't say I did not warn you about other DCI carrier contracts. Expect to see DAL DCI carriers down from 8 drastically.
There is the reduction.
-The Falang
09-09-2009, 09:08 AM
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Nothing has been finalized yet but I would say YES, it will mean more cuts. We furloughed 110 due to the last round of 10 Saabs being sent back. I'd imagine that there will be an additional 130 or so furloughs as a result. I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt Delta will be replacing those Saabs with anything. Looks like there will probably be about 270 pilots furloughed from Mesaba as a result of this nonsense. It didn't take Delta long to screw the Mesaba pilot group.
09-09-2009, 09:13 AM
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You are correct on many things. DAL is maxed out on 76 seaters and we will be emphasizing scope from here out. The membership was upset when we gave scope relief to fly some 70 seaters as 76 seaters. If DAL furloughs, then those seats have to be removed. Sorry to see anyones seat go away but better the feed than mainline ultimately. We at mainline believe that one or more DCI's will benefit from the USAir gate swap. All those cities in the NE can not handle mainline A/C loads. Comair is our high cost DCI as they have so many folks on the upper pay scales and their on-time performance has not been stellar to sway the least. Now they have been set-up for failure being hubbed at JFK. Come SOC in January things will get interesting for all of us.
09-09-2009, 09:13 AM
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If they sell of any of the wholly owned carriers at the moment or even merge them, they will have to renegotiate the ASA's they have. This is highly unlikely seeing that DAL wants more flexibility with its partners not less. If you ask me, I would think DAL is in the market to buy another wholly owned in the near future. They can park or add aircraft at will without the economics repercussions they have with other contract carriers. i.e. mesa.........
09-09-2009, 09:19 AM
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If they sell of any of the wholly owned carriers at the moment or even merge them, they will have to renegotiate the ASA's they have. This is highly unlikely seeing that DAL wants more flexibility with its partners not less. If you ask me, I would think DAL is in the market to buy another wholly owned in the near future. They can park or add aircraft at will without the economics repercussions they have with other contract carriers. i.e. mesa.........
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