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Old 09-09-2009, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CloudPilot57
How much is this birdy "in the knkow?"

I hope not??
Let just say they knew about the Saabs months ago....
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:20 AM
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Things are not looking good for Mesaba. I little birdy told me that Mesaba will end up just like Compass flying 36 CRJ900's. 50 Capacity will be GREATLY reduced starting first quarter 2010. Except more Comair and Mesaba 200's to get cut.
ha ha give me a break. Stop the flame. That won't happen. The 50 capacity reductions is believable. But you have to remember that SkyWest, Pinnacle and Comair (just to name a few) are MAJOR 200 operators and when their contracts are up (I know Comair is wholly owned and doesn't have a contract) that's where the 200 reduction will occur. Mesaba isn't getting rid of their 200s just yet.

PS. The Farang is still a little bitter over the Mesaba/Xjet issue in RST. He doesn't care too much for Mesaba. He's just flaming on this board.
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Delta should really be looking at the "next-gen" ATR 42/72-600s for their route structure. Substantially lower acquisition & operating costs than an RJ on a sub-300nm segment with substantially better performance & revenue potential than an older Saab.
That would make too much sense. The turboprop has a bright future, and the new ATR I hear, is more comfortable than the CRJ.
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Originally Posted by The Farang
Let just say they knew about the Saabs months ago....
This little birdy is all just a figment of your imagination. We don't want to hear about the voices in your head.

Once Delta announced that the first 10 Saabs were going back it was a no-brainer that they would continue.
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by thrustsetrj200
ha ha give me a break. Stop the flame. That won't happen. The 50 capacity reductions is believable. But you have to remember that SkyWest, Pinnacle and Comair (just to name a few) are MAJOR 200 operators and when their contracts are up (I know Comair is wholly owned and doesn't have a contract) that's where the 200 reduction will occur. Mesaba isn't getting rid of their 200s just yet.

PS. The Farang is still a little bitter over the Mesaba/Xjet issue in RST. He doesn't care too much for Mesaba. He's just flaming on this board.

++1. Well put. XJ only has 16 CRJ200s and they are not going anywhere for a while. If I was a gambling man, I'd put my money on most of the Saabs going away but XJ getting more CRJ7s and CRJ9s from another DCI carrier. The total number of pilots at XJ may decrease from 1170 but not by much by the time 2010 rolls around. DAL has something planned for XJ in 2010 and from all indications, it is positive.

DAL is putting pressure on SkyWest at SLC. Next time you fly to SLC just count the number of XJ CRJ9s there. Heck they even put a note in the DAL crewroom that Mesaba flight crews are entitled to use their bag room and their crewroom.
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by thrustsetrj200
ha ha give me a break. Stop the flame. That won't happen. The 50 capacity reductions is believable. But you have to remember that SkyWest, Pinnacle and Comair (just to name a few) are MAJOR 200 operators and when their contracts are up (I know Comair is wholly owned and doesn't have a contract) that's where the 200 reduction will occur. Mesaba isn't getting rid of their 200s just yet.
When are their contracts up?
Skywest/ASA is 2020.
Pinnacle's is 2017.
That will be a while until either of those get reductions in 50 seaters, unless they are exchanges for 900's (which they can't current due to scope) or they fail to meet performance goals. Look at how much hassle MESA has been for Delta to get rid of. Reduction will come from the wholly owns.

You heard it hear first folks. Sorry for the bad news.

Little hint fellas..There is a reason no 200's have gone to paint...
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by The Farang
When are their contracts up?
Skywest/ASA is 2020.
Pinnacle's is 2017.
That will be a while until either of those get reductions in 50 seaters, unless they are exchanges for 900's (which they can't current due to scope) or they fail to meet performance goals. Look at how much hassle MESA has been for Delta to get rid of. Reduction will come from the wholly owns.

You heard it hear first folks. Sorry for the bad news.

Little hint fellas..There is a reason no 200's have gone to paint...
Then can you explain why the saab's did go to paint?
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:09 AM
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Then can you explain why the saab's did go to paint?
Because during the 'C' checks they found corrosion on the airframes. In order to resolve that issue you need to strip the paint, sand blast, repair, seal, and repaint.
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Originally Posted by sigep_nm
Then can you explain why the saab's did go to paint?
something has to hold them together...a coat of paint is as good as anything
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by The Farang
Because during the 'C' checks they found corrosion on the airframes. In order to resolve that issue you need to strip the paint, sand blast, repair, seal, and repaint.
And where did you get that information from?
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