Mason32

It's a scam being pulled on regional airline employees...

if "everybody" has a contract specifying "industry average" it does not take a rocket scientist to see that if ANY pilot group takes a pay cut, then the industry average just dropped, which means the next contract up for negotiation is by default going to also take a small hit... the process will continue in a downward spiral until nobody will take the job for those wages. We were almost at that point two years ago when they resorted to hiring people with the ink still wet on their tickets.

The very notion of them trying to sell a pilot group on ANYTHING "industry average" is insulting to anybody capable of using basic logic to follow the resulting trend to it's inevitable conclusion.

The idea of a UNION trying to tell their pilots that "industry average" is a good thing is a joke.

dondk

I agree, 100%, instead of recalling just 2 MEC guys, I would hope 9E pilots recall them all except for those who voted NO.

if everyone took concessionary pay cuts, the only protection is the DOS increase at 1%, or .30 to about 1 buck a year (for the super senior). I believe wally world greeters get more than that every year as an increase.

challenger

Well so much for the hope and faith i had in our union. I know when i was there i was paying my dues and trying to support them. I guess it was all a waste. Plus the time on the picket line and the family events. I had high hopes for the pilots of pinnacle when i left now if this is what they thing is a good contract i very disapointed

B00sted

I think the MEC did the right thing by letting the pilots vote on this TA, even though it is not good.

What would make you vote yes?

For me, same 401k match as the rest of the company (basically is 100% of 5%/ 100% vested right away)11 days off for reserves, 2 year contract duration, and COLA after the amendable date.

401k and 11 days off for reserves are a HUGE deal for me. I'm voting NO.

VOTE NOT ONLY NO, BUT HELL NO!

dondk

they had no choice, what would you think if they turned it down after 5 years? Many would have wanted to lynch them. This way, they have the "out" regardless of which way the vote goes down. Pretty convenient from the cheap seats.

I am just wondering who is going to try to come out claiming to save everyone from the less than stellar, 5 year long project that nets very little.

Silver02ex

I bid for CDO's and based on what i've seen. It will be worse than what our work rules for CDO's that we have now. They took away the 5 hr. "break" on the ground, but they still can schedule up to 4 CDO's in a row? no extra pay for picking up CDO's like 5+ hrs credit (based on the rumors) my vote will be NO now!

SrfNFly227

Why? What benefit has come by us seeing the contract?

If the MEC had voted no, they would already be planning what to do next. By allowing us to see a ****** TA, they only accomplished adding a month and half to the process. Now when we vote it down at the end of September, we will finally be able to begin what could have started over a week ago.

Yeah for us, we got to read it. We now also get to live without a contract for even longer. Way to go MEC.

cencal83406

Actually, if the MEC had voted it down - the NMB would have not looked very kindly upon us. If we say "NO!!!" then we have more ammo for shuttin this puppy down!

dondk

That plus the message you send back to Nonconnah.

Flatspin

What a joke. Whoever negotiated and agreed on this one had to be drunk. 10 Yr CA making Eighty grand and ten days off?? LOL You can install Cable Television and do better than that.