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08-22-2009, 08:48 AM
#141
Che Guevara
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,408
I cannot help it that you continue to use and ask for the TWA integration as what you want, but do not understand HOW that integration worked as it gave TWA pilots super seniority in STL and also gave them a lock of a certain percentage of the captains slots in STL based on the total number of narrowbody aircraft American flies in certain other domiciles (DFW and ORD if I am not mistaken).
08-22-2009, 09:46 AM
#142
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 798
Who's airline is it? I think that's one of the largest barriers that needs to be broken down for things to move smoothly. You have to admit that you're part of a family now and "me me me" should be replaced with "us us us".
Bear392 if you haven't seen anyone wanting DOH do a search on users 320toBearz for starters.
Bear392 if you haven't seen anyone wanting DOH do a search on users 320toBearz for starters.
I agree. We need to work together because BB and TPG will try to divide us.
08-22-2009, 10:22 AM
#143
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Posts: 361
I don't know if this is a drunk post or not. Doesn't make much since. When I mentioned TWA, a couple months ago, it was as a statement that I hoped people would maintain seniority in base on aircraft AND when recalled go back to seniority position in base. Not the entire situation that became TWA. Don't mistake the two.
It should be no different over at F9.
08-22-2009, 11:24 AM
#145
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: E-170
Posts: 842
The 190 is a replacement for the 717 directly but in your mind success is replacing it at 50% less wages. This is an aircraft that the midwest pilots should be entitled too. What you just said above is exactly what I said. Midwest pilots retain super seniority on all Midwest 190 (and I would argue 170/145) flights.
It should be no different over at F9.
It should be no different over at F9.
08-22-2009, 12:42 PM
#146
Che Guevara
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,408
The 190 is a replacement for the 717 directly but in your mind success is replacing it at 50% less wages. This is an aircraft that the midwest pilots should be entitled too. What you just said above is exactly what I said. Midwest pilots retain super seniority on all Midwest 190 (and I would argue 170/145) flights.
It should be no different over at F9.
It should be no different over at F9.
08-22-2009, 12:49 PM
#147
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What was going to happen with the termiated Frontier E170 and American? E135-145 flying?
Sounding like you want to move it to Midwest and take our jobs.
Is that the Teamster solution to merging these airlines?
08-22-2009, 01:01 PM
#148
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: E-170
Posts: 842
Obviously I dont want to lose my job, now that is a personal feeling clearly. Now I might have missed something but when did the teamsters sign their approval of us doing midwest flying? As I recall the union had to file a grievance just to get access to the contract to understand what all would be involved with the new flying.
08-22-2009, 01:08 PM
#149
Che Guevara
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,408
I agree. We need to work together because BB and TPG will try to divide us.
08-22-2009, 01:10 PM
#150
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This is why integrating the Midwest Pilots quickly is so important. They cannot even bid the equipment until they are on the list. There should be enough flying coming that will enable a Midwest pilot to hold MKE on the 190 if so desired. But if we block off the 190's for them we also block off the rest of the system to them, that would be only fair and equitable. Point being if a guy commuting from Philly is stuck in the right seat anyway why not take one close to home. I don't believe you are going to to see a pay difference between 170's and 190's. There maybe something in the works to split it below but I still see the company fighting for one FO pay scale, it will definitely be better though.
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