H.R.3371 The Actual Bill
#121
How so? Is a maneuver less valuable when it is flown linearly than when it is flown inside a 3 mile box?
Admittedly some lessons do not lend themselves to the 50 fix xc (ground reference maneuvers for example). But a series of stalls followed by a drag/Vmc demo would not cost the student an extra dime.
Besides, if the school is at a class C airport, 10 of the 50 miles is spent just getting clear of the airspace.
Admittedly some lessons do not lend themselves to the 50 fix xc (ground reference maneuvers for example). But a series of stalls followed by a drag/Vmc demo would not cost the student an extra dime.
Besides, if the school is at a class C airport, 10 of the 50 miles is spent just getting clear of the airspace.
#122
This is the crap I was worried about. I read it that I if not able to upgrade in three years will now have to go retrain on a Seminole and take a check ride with some "I'm going to save the worlds passengers" DE who wants to prove himself and risk failing a part 61 checkride and risk loosing my job after paying out what I am sure to be a jacked up price because they know you are at their mercy price. The bill needs to read that the pilots airline will type the pilot with an ATP after 3 years regardless of position held! But we as voters don't have lobbyist to save us money on training costs.
Politicians suck!
Politicians suck!
#123
What's going to change about the pilot records? How are they going to be made more "readily available" to the employer? Don't they see everything anyway?
#124
The issue of pay should be left to the contracts that we all have, if you're not happy with the pay 1) dont vote for the cantract. 2) When the next one comes around, vote for higher pay. It shouldnt be the governments resposibility to see that we get equil/ fair pay, it's up to us and collective barganing.
Also, if you are a furloghee it should be up to the company to get you that ATP when you get called back. A pilot on the street probably dosent have enough disposable income to rent a twin for the checkride let alone get to those ATP mins.
Call your Senators and Congress people tell them your ideas.
Also, if you are a furloghee it should be up to the company to get you that ATP when you get called back. A pilot on the street probably dosent have enough disposable income to rent a twin for the checkride let alone get to those ATP mins.
Call your Senators and Congress people tell them your ideas.
#125
new bill, overseas hours...
I got furlough last year and I found a job overseas... which is good for now. but I was wondering with this new bill how can I log those hours towards my ATP, I am getting close to the 1500 mark but I have not logged a single hour in my US logbook...
Does anybody know if I have to legalize those hours in the US or just log them like I used to do?
any thoughts?
Does anybody know if I have to legalize those hours in the US or just log them like I used to do?
any thoughts?
#126
Has a map of the voting breakdown ~ House Vote 778 - H.R.3371: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass, as Amended - NYTimes.com
Find it interesting that all of the Nays were Republican and were in areas with minimal aviation activity. For instance Utah district 1.
I support the concept/intent behind the bill and would be interested in knowing why they disagree..not out of a desire for an argument but perhaps they have unaddressed concerns. Either way I plan on contacting each of them and finding out.
Find it interesting that all of the Nays were Republican and were in areas with minimal aviation activity. For instance Utah district 1.
I support the concept/intent behind the bill and would be interested in knowing why they disagree..not out of a desire for an argument but perhaps they have unaddressed concerns. Either way I plan on contacting each of them and finding out.
#127
This is great news! I get to spend another 3 years instructing making around 9k a year. So I can look forward to making 20k a year when I get hired by a regional as a ATP rated pilot.
#128
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When you put it that way, I'm not sure why anyone would want to be a professional pilot these days.
#129
Are we there yet??!!
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A logbook is a logbook, it doesn't matter what country your flying in. Yes, I realize that some countries have there own format.
I would suggest that you get your logbook stamped by a company official to "certify" your hours. At least this would give a little more credence to the hours you have logged. I say this because I am am suspicious of guys with low time that get foreign jobs and start logging lots of hours or guys that have never been Capt before suddenly logging PIC with nothing other than a (cooked) logbook to show as evidence.
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#130
Eats shoots and leaves...
Joined APC: Apr 2007
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Posts: 849
I'm not quite sure where this entitlement attitude comes from, but aside from Kit Darby and his inbred counterparts at pilot mills, I've met very few people affiliated with aviation who sell sunshine on how easy life as a pilot is. Either you never asked the question, didn't listen when you were told, or you simply chose to believe that the days of 300 hour jet FO's and 1500 hour captains were here to stay forever. In any event, the past few years has been a historical aberration (and hopefully will remain so in many aspects, including pay). Hiring standards need to be raised for a number of reasons, and the morons who run airlines are too shortsighted to do what is ultimately in their best long-term interests. Even if it's somewhat misguided, congress is actually doing something close to the right thing here.
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