subin30

thats how i get to ICN thank you Atlas/Polar

nicholasblonde

I hate to say it but I really don't like it that people start threads on this stuff...it has always been my fear that too many people will find out about cargo jumpseating int'l and the day will inevitably come that a bunch of gjet new-hires with spiky hair and ipods-with-hats-on will show up to the cargo ramp and give a Polar/Atlas driver a bad taste about RJ jumpseaters...keep the lid on this great secret--if someone is saavy enough, they'll look in their own jumpseat manual and figure it out on their own...don't do everyone's footwork for them....I'm sure it's already happened, but I'm terrified of stuff like this getting too popular--I can see it now: "Hey guys!!! I'm Stevie!!! I live in ST Louis!!! I love 747s!!!!

Just please everyone on this thread--if you jumpseat on a cargo flight overseas, be a grown-up, be extremely respectful, and stay out of everyone's way (and bunk, and cockpit) unless specifically invited to the flight deck/sleeping bunk...I probably sound crazy, but this is just from my experience riding overseas on some of these carriers, and I don't want to ever lose the luxury...

forumname

I understand your point. But keep this in mind. Although JS'ing on a cargo carrier is better, it's slightly more leg work if you will. Leg work that pays off.

The type of pilot you are referencing above is not accustomed to that, they are used to doing everything the easy and familiar way. Doing the cargo JS can require you to use a bit of skill, knowledge, and thinking on your feet and improvising at times adapt and overcome some of the contingencies that can pop up in the ACMI JS'ing world. Assuming they can handle that is giving them too much credit.

HSLD

If we don't take care of each other, who else will?

av8sean

I've had 744 captains on NW and UA both request me to sit on the upper deck. They rather have another pilot in close proximity. On UA they even cleared me before the online-nonrevs. As others have suggested, be extremely professional, and that means not drinking booze either.

Flyer2000

Correct. You MAY occupy the cockpit jumpseat on your own carrier... if set up to do so (i.e. listing in advance as "crew" with passport info etc).

kalyx522

I had the pleasure of jumpseating on northwest last week and I was very impressed by the captain as well. It was a pleasant surprise to receive such kind and respectable treatment... something sort of uncommon nowdays.

and dont worry, I won't steal your cargo jumpseat

Koolaidman

Same here. I have never flown on them as I usually take United/American to work. Everything was great. Got a window seat in the back with the middle seat open. Got to MSP, ran to the gate to catch the flight. They closed the boarding door 10 minutes prior and there was no gate agent. I walked over to the next gate and the lady called down to the phone on the jet bridge and got me on. They didn't give me a seat assignment, so I asked if could throw my bags in the overheads in first. After I did that, I asked where they wanted me to sit. The purser pointed to the first seat in the aircraft. All the members of the crews were great. I was extremely impressed with the overall operation.

I have no idea whether or not they listed me as a jumpseater or non-rev. The people in Canada were very nice, but didn't give me a direct answer. I assume I'll find out if it comes out of my paycheck.

Eilert Pilarm

good advice but that should go without saying yes? i.e., everyone observing jumpseat etiquette. knowing the etiquette combined with common sense goes a long way.

another nice thing happened on that trip last year. I had to buy a ticket on KLM from AMS to BLL. short flight. showed up in uniform since I'd worn that over from the states. Lead FA had me step aside up in the galley area. Met the captain and had a really nice chat. They sat me in Business class and served me a couple Heinekens and the capt. even came back during the flight and had more of a chat. very nice.
the crew was apologetic for not having a meal for me since they had only ordered enough for their planned passengers up in biz. not a problem of course. I'd eaten myself silly on the previous flight!
The KLM folks did the same on the return flight. They can only jumpseat their own KLM personnel I learned.

p.s. going thru aircrew security in AMS is bazilly!!!!

rickB

[quote=nicholasblonde;632453]I hate to say it but I really don't like it that people start threads on this stuff...it has always been my fear that too many people will find out about cargo jumpseating int'l and the day will inevitably come that a bunch of gjet new-hires with spiky hair and ipods-with-hats-on will show up to the cargo ramp and give a Polar/Atlas driver a bad taste about RJ jumpseaters...quote]

my question is, how can you wear a hat and still have spiky hair? you know how?