somertime32

If I remember correctly 12 interviewed and 11 went. All were offered jobs. The one that didn't go was in my class, that is how I heard about the numbers.

FlyASA

Thanks, so that narrows the furlough list to 69 at most with probably another 60 new ones to come in the fall. I'm guessing attrition is under 10 so we should have around 1690-1700 pilots on the new seniority list in July.

Q1 2011 recall seems realistic.

USMC3197

2011 recall at ASA??? I think 2010 recall is just as realistic just attrition alone would make that a reasonable estimate.

John where would these other 700/900's come from on another 2-1 deal? DCI has already MAXED out their larger AC's for connection flights.

FlyASA

What is the current attrition rate? I would guess it's near 0.

Q1 2011 seems realistic to me for the following reasons:

- Scott said not to expect any changes till summer 2010 in that email about block hours. If they can make it through this summer with the record number of block hours with out recalls there is no reason why they can't do it next summer, especially with 20 CRJs (net negative 10 aircraft) leaving the fleet.

- PBS could slash our staffing needs by 10% or more if it is voted in

- If the rumors of another 2-1 swap are true (don't know) we'll have a net loss of 20 aircraft (when added with the other 2-1 swap) and at roughly 5.5 crews per aircraft, that's over 220 pilots we won't need anymore.

There is also the Skywest wild card, what's to stop them from taking more ASA flying to avoid furloughs on their side?

TP199

dont be ridiculous. you know as well as i do that they don't have a plan. and how many times have you said, 'mesa will be done in 6 months....blah blah blah.' that talk has been going on for 2 years +.

USMC3197

I don't know if Skywest can just "take" ASA flying. Still the matter of contracts and certificates. But I don't know. There is always attrition no matter what, it is just a matter of how many. My seniority number went up about 24 people on the last update in Jan. So I am very curious on what the new number is. Also if you look at that most recent e-mail, we have close to 100 pilots on LOA for med or mil. So out of 1600 pilots that are not furloughed there is still another 100 not flying. That makes 1500 pilots working this summer and fall schedule. My opinion will change IF another 2-1 deal is worked out. That I think will be the nail in the coffin for a 2010 recall. But I have no clue where these planes will come from because DCI 700/900 are maxed out. I do AGREE with you the PBS may skrew everything up and that to me is the biggest wild card. If voted in that is just as bad if not worst than a 2-1 deal. But.... if the FAA changes these duty time rules... well that means those 16 hr days now need 2 pilots to do. That can be a blessing for ALL furloughed pilots because staffing numbers will have to change. I think there is too many unknowns right now for anyone, including myself, to make a good prediction. The chips can fall in any direction right now.

atlmsl

I'd be willing to bet they have a plan. Why would a company that was previuosly refusing a 2 for 1 deal agree to a 2 for 1 deal if they didn't have some sort of plan? Skywest INC. isn't a bunch of idiots. Nothing is signed and dotted yet so there is no announcement of anything. JP is right. Why would they talk about something that is not complete? That would just be stupid. Our new management has made good moves so far, let's give them the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

FlyASA

I'm sure they are making a good move regardless because, from a management perspective, increasing the size of the 700/900 fleet reduces the company's exposure to 50 seaters. They'll diversify the company while the Delta scope still allows them to do so. I'm sure they would love to find homes for all the -200s but given the current financial climate and terrible economics of the aircraft it is doubtful that they will.

Bottom line, yes they have a plan but it doesn't mean that plan is good for the pilots.

atlmsl

A plan good for the company is good for the pilots in terms of growth. If furloughing pilots now creates more long term jobs for the future then I'd say they're doing the right thing. Better than keeping a fleet of 50 seaters and slowly dying. I know it's a hard time right now, but we have good leaders. Judging by the last year and a half of new management I have no reason not to trust them.

gtechpilot

Under our new management we furloughed 80 pilots. ASA had never done that prior but you have 'no reason not to trust them'?

Sorry, no personal attack here, but I hear that line often enough that I have to point out the obvious.