GrUpGrDn

Ah, man, that leaves out me living in Fl state income tax..
Most junior reserve, i will be sleeping 24 hours..
ETOH, above takes care of this..
Gonna need a sleeper to take care of 24 hour sleep..
There goes my Chef Boy'rdee ravioli..
Push ups from couch..
5'2'', 295 lbs. I like NASCAR!!!!!!

Whacker77

If rest is as big of deal as everyone says, then new rules could be a big help. It COULD, and I stress could, lead to higher staffing requirements. Still in the zero sum gain era of flying, that probably means capacity cuts. As long as people want $100 tickets, airlines will compete based on cost rather than quality of service (cabin service, overall experience).

I notices someone mentioned stricter PRIA records. Last year, I sent away for my entire pack just to see what was there. It had every checkride I took, but what else could they add to that?

SrfNFly227

I still don't see why people are thinking that more rest would equal more staff??? I would think that it would lead to less days off for the current crews.

I think about it this way. Senior pilots are currently getting 16-20 days off per month. Junior line holders are getting 12-14 days off. Our contracts say that minimum days off are 10-11. If the trips become less efficient, I don't see the companies increasing their costs by hiring more crews. I see them giving less days off to cover the same amount of flying.

Do people disagree with this??? Why or why not???

TPROP4ever

agree. Lets see The Public, the Media, The government being reactionary to public sentiment, not sure I trust them to be motivated by anything but political gain....you can rest assured whatever they decide, It WILL cause pilots more heartache, not the other way around....just my 2 cents

bailee atr

you still have a limit on how many hours a month you can get. If the lines with 16-20 days off have the same amout of hours as the 11 day off lines, then the company cant just schedule more flights on your line with less days off.

DryMotorBoatin

I may tend to agree with the harder checkride thing and hear me out. First let me preface this by saying that I don't consider waterskiers superior pilots. But that being said, in my class of 40 new hires, only 15 made it to the line at Trans States. So my logic says that since TSA training strictly adhered to ATP standards on the checkrides and orals that it is a realistic training program. I could be wrong but I don't know of any other regional that washes so many out. With that in mind, that means alot of people on other regionals are making it to the line who maybe wouldn't or shouldn't. Again, thats not saying TransStates crews are superior. But it is saying that maybe training to proficiency rather than giving 8 sim sessions and then the door isn't the best idea. From what I've heard it sounds like there are some airlines who are willng to spoonfeed trainees. I think TSA's typical washout rate is a bit excessive and some is related to hiring people with a temporary multi-commercial ticket but airlines with 95% pass rates may be a bit excessive as well.

aviatorpr

Maybe 15/40 is because training departments at regionals, def. at mine(PNCL), are a joke. We have guys who have never flown our jet teaching us, they try to save money by getting by on the bare minimum or sim sessions and hours in classrooms, ioe requirements. but with all that being said, my checkride is a appendix f, like everyone else, ATP standards, same criteria.

JoeyMeatballs

its ashame they don't differentiate in the media. The training I received at Colgan was a world away from that of Expressjet's

So now, because Colgan's management wanted to skimp on training we will all suffer ball-busting FEDS, less days off, and less productive trips......

Mason32

All is shows is that your HR, Selection Process, Hiring Process, and Interview Process all needs to be revamped. Most professional airlines do not want to waste $15,000 finding out 3 weeks into training that the student can't make it. The point you are missing is that the other training centers are NOT pushing unqualified people out onto the line... they are just not hiring unqualified people who can't, or most likely won't finish training in the first place.

There are other "regionals" that also have high washout rates, and some that meet the bare FAA minimums fro training; but by and large most airlines just are more selective about whom they hire and spend their money trying to train. Even in the last round of hiring, there were people who didn't get hired.

When your pay is substandard, contract is substandard, maintenance is substandard, and everything else is substandard, you accept, hire and process as many people as possible the meet the minimum FAA requirements, and hopefully you can keep your "airline" staffed.

After hearing the condition your airline returned the leased jets to AMR in, and then realizing that your Captains & FO's were accepting and flying paying passengers in those airplanes in that condition....
Well, I then formed a new opinion of TSA....

IBFlyin

I just want to see if my logic jives with anyone else. How about Congress makes massive revisions to the RLA. This was we could fix issues with pay, scheduling, rest, ect. I dont have anywhere near a full understanding of the RLA, but from what I know, you need the NMB to sign off in order for an airline to strike. If the the RLA were revamped so that the NMB goes away, and all that was required to strike was 30-60 days official notice to management until a strike took place, then we would have our leverage back, and we could fix many issues that are being looked at. Most importantly, this would ensure that no new rules are put in place that we dont want, and it would also give us leverage to make changes down the line. This is the most long term fix I can think of. It wouldnt do much for the training issue, but all of the QOL issues could be taken care of at our discretion.