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Old 06-13-2009, 07:12 PM
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No, I am a FedEx Captain making $238/hr. I just like slumming it down here with you lowly poor regional trash.

(Yes I work for Colgan, that is why I use "we" when speaking of Colgan)
Probably would have been a lot funnier if you said you were an ABX Air captain making $239 an hour.
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Old 06-13-2009, 07:41 PM
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The other rumor is the Colgan Q400 makes almost double the revenue of an expressjet E145 for about half the cost. I've heard they actually want to get more.
1. It depends on the routes. Over a longer route the Q becomes less and less efficient.

2. CAL did want more Qs. I don't know if they still do or not. CAL went to Republic wanting them to place a bid to fly 12 Qs for them but the company didn't find it financially feasible.
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Old 06-13-2009, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
1. It depends on the routes. Over a longer route the Q becomes less and less efficient.

2. CAL did want more Qs. I don't know if they still do or not. CAL went to Republic wanting them to place a bid to fly 12 Qs for them but the company didn't find it financially feasible.
So CAL wanted Republic to fly Q's? Where was Republic going to get these Q's? Colgan's Q options were available to any airline to codeshare with and CAL wanted the first 15 (which they got) and then they signed for 15 more (next year)...and they signed for first option for Q's 46-60. Q's 31-45 are still available to any airline.

Bottom line is cost cost cost. Q's are the best within 400 miles as you mentioned. Airlines are going to have to find any and all ways to save a buck with the new era in aviation which is on the way.
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Old 06-13-2009, 08:48 PM
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So CAL wanted Republic to fly Q's? Where was Republic going to get these Q's? Colgan's Q options were available to any airline to codeshare with and CAL wanted the first 15 (which they got) and then they signed for 15 more (next year)...and they signed for first option for Q's 46-60. Q's 31-45 are still available to any airline.

Bottom line is cost cost cost. Q's are the best within 400 miles as you mentioned. Airlines are going to have to find any and all ways to save a buck with the new era in aviation which is on the way.
I am not sure why CAL would want CHQ to fly these either
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Old 06-13-2009, 08:51 PM
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I am not sure why CAL would want CHQ to fly these either
CHQ and CAL is a WHOLE other story, isn't it?
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Old 06-13-2009, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DMEarc
I call bullshyt.

Green on Green?
Green on Green doesn't prevent two newbies to their seat from FLYING together. It just prevents certain operations when two newbies are flying together.

My first trip off IOE was with a CA who was on his first trip off upgrade OE. It happens...
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Old 06-13-2009, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
This has always been a misconception. ValuJet did not change their name to AirTran. They merged with the smaller company AirTran for their name.

So your logic would suggest Colgan would merge with Big Sky, to be called Big Sky.

Kind of how Comair changed their name to....wait....they still are Comair.
Don't kid yourself. Effectively, it's still a name change primarily for the sake of a name change.
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by The Far Sides
FPD = Fargo Police Department, Flame Photometric Detector?

CPA = Certified Public Accountant...I couldn't even find it by googling it.

I'm going to start a movement against GUATNU (Geeks Using Acronyms That Nobody Understands).
I want you to know that I just nosed my coffee. Hear hear!!! Motion seconded. While we're at it, can we take LOL, LMAO, and all of thier variants out to the back 40 and give them two in the hat?
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
Green on Green doesn't prevent two newbies to their seat from FLYING together. It just prevents certain operations when two newbies are flying together.

My first trip off IOE was with a CA who was on his first trip off upgrade OE. It happens...
It shouldn't.
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Old 06-14-2009, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
So CAL wanted Republic to fly Q's? Where was Republic going to get these Q's? Colgan's Q options were available to any airline to codeshare with and CAL wanted the first 15 (which they got) and then they signed for 15 more (next year)...and they signed for first option for Q's 46-60. Q's 31-45 are still available to any airline.

Bottom line is cost cost cost. Q's are the best within 400 miles as you mentioned. Airlines are going to have to find any and all ways to save a buck with the new era in aviation which is on the way.
Yes, CAL approached RAH about flying the Q. However, discussions did not go very far as the Q did not fit in with Bedford's business plan. I'm not saying we are too good to fly it, or that props are beneath us. A lot if us have prop backgrounds, and would gladly bid for a chance to play with Beta again. Bedford has a comprehensive plan, and he did not want to be bothered. It is a shame, because the Q can be a real money maker. Why CAL asked us to fly them, and whether or not that was before or after Colgan started flying them, I don't know.

Options are just options, and can be traded and sold. Bedford regularly does that with his E-jet options. If RAH does not have a need for an aircraft as its ready to be built, he sells his upcoming delivery slot to another carrier for a premium, and takes their subsequent delivery slot. Colgan would do the same thing. Trade #'S 16-30 to someone who is ready for delivery, and assume rights to numbers 31-45.
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