Originally Posted by Airsupport

dont bother fosters. if you read his posts in other threads this captain cant be taught a thing.

Originally Posted by Airsupport

if that is how you are using the radar you are using it incorrectly. at fl300 the radar should almost always be in the negative tilt. the crj radar is actually pretty good, you just have to know how to use it.

the correct way to use the radar on the crj 200 is as follows.

choose a distance you want to use. the 80-160 is not very effective but
still can be used to see larger items further away.

the best distances are the 20-40 or the 40-80.

the way to use the radar is set the distance you want to look at. then tilt the radar down till you begin to paint ground and you can see a fairly solid green arc at the furthest distance on your screen. once you have established a good ground paint arc then you can begin to watch for weather. the ground arc should stay at the same distance at all times unless you adjust the tilt again. ANYTHING that comes out of the ground arc you have been painting and comes closer to the plane is an area of weather and thunderstorms. you also at the higher altitudes want to point the tilt down a little more than normal. the crj doesn't pic up frozen precip so at the higher altitudes it wont paint storms unless you are pointing down below the freezing level.

so in review.

Point radar so that you get a good solid arc of ground clutter at the furthest distance for the range you have chosen. the ground clutter should stay the exact same distance from you.

If something moves closer to you out of the ground clutter it is an area of weather and should be avoided.

Originally Posted by John Pennekamp

Thank you professor! In my 8000 hours (3000 in a CRJ) I think I have a good grasp of how to use radar! I paint ground at 80 miles and +2. if you tilt it above that, you still see nothing.

If you point the radar to -2 at FL300 all you see is the ground more than 20 miles out. That's as useless as your advice. Let me know when you get typed on the plane.

Originally Posted by John Pennekamp

I believe it. Since Flagship moved into ATL, I've heard some stuff on the radio that blew me away. And I've actually heard similar conversations to the above on the ERLIN arrival.

Originally Posted by mooney

in my 7000 crj hours I am going to say Airsupport is right. And yes I am typed in the AC.........and every radar i have ever used, the way Air describes it is the way I was taught. Being at FL300 and having the tilt at +2, you're only gonna be painting a cell if it is really tall and right in front of you.

Originally Posted by Airsupport

lol, vintage pennekamp. i am not the only one who thinks you dont know how to use the radar.. and i just might have a type in the crj and i now know i do have more hours in the plane than you. but since you know all i don't have to explain that to you. and its not professor, you can call me doctor.

Originally Posted by John Pennekamp

Yeah... 80 miles. The max range of the radar (duh).

Originally Posted by mooney

You mean like the ASA conversation last week that went something like this.....
"clearance ASA 5000 IFR ATL"
ATC..."clearance on request"
ASA..."yes sir, I just requested it. IFR ATL."
etc, you can see where this is going. Theres some at every airline John, even yours...

Originally Posted by John Pennekamp

Yeah... 80 miles. The max range of the radar (duh).

Originally Posted by John Pennekamp

Waaaaah! Waaaaah! JP was mean to me, waaaah!

So tell us, Doctor, you "may" be typed? Are you or not? Another right seat skipper, who challenges his captain on every thing, and thinks he knows it all, bitter he's not the Captain. Glad I don't have to fly with you. You're a regular Archie Trammel with the radar. Oh the skills! Then taking comments on an anonymous message board as if I insulted your mother. You must be a pure joy to spend 4 days with.

I won't be able to reply because this post will surely get me banned, but seriously, dude, get a life. See ya.

Originally Posted by John Pennekamp

Ha Ha. Yes, we have some of them, but not as many as some airlines. When we were hiring 500 Riddle Wonders, you heard a lot more of that, but since we haven't hired in about 1.5 years, most of them have been "educated" by now.

Originally Posted by Airsupport

uh, you do know what lrc is and how to use it right captain?