Be Careful What You Wish For
06-11-2009, 05:59 PM
#31
Saab Saab Phooey!
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Set Hundo
Posts: 479
I think the worst thing on any trip is long sits at airports. Everyone gets more weary with 4.5 hour layovers than if you kept going. Talk about unproductive trips? Look at some of Comair's trips (I'm sure other's too). You can work a 14 hour day with three 1.5 hrs flights. Sitting in an airport with no crew area, you can't just lie on the seats like the passengers do. Next thing you know, CNN would be video taping you sleeping in the airport and reporting improper crew rest.
Why would you even want to cover up (at your expense) for arse-poor management?
06-11-2009, 07:37 PM
#32
Che Guevara
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,408
If there is not an adequate crew room, and no offer of a company paid hotel room, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't just crash out on the seats like anyone else. Let the newsies film you. It's absolute BS that you would be given a long layover with nowhere to go. THAT needs to be exposed to everyone. If the only place to rest is in the gate area, go for it, and let the chips find their way up to the sh!tty management that allows that kind of abuse.
Why would you even want to cover up (at your expense) for arse-poor management?
Why would you even want to cover up (at your expense) for arse-poor management?
06-11-2009, 08:21 PM
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2005
Position: Retired
Posts: 2,934
Most companies record conversations with scheduling/dispatch.
06-12-2009, 04:25 AM
#37
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 103
06-12-2009, 06:57 AM
#38
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: http://rahcontractnow.org/
Posts: 206
I am not saying there are not cases where pilots truly are fatigued but increasing our rest will have a very very negative effect on our QOL. Our trips will be less productive, and our days off will go down. I think the overall lifestyle and pay has more to do with feeling rundown than an actual duty day. If we were paid more we would not have to fly close to 100hrs to pay the bills and have some extra cash (for those that don't need to fly 100hrs, your lucky, living in Hoboken, NJ and paying off school loans is a KILLER)
anyway I just wanted to point out that more rest is not neccesarly the solution.............
discuss
anyway I just wanted to point out that more rest is not neccesarly the solution.............
discuss
8 hours of flight, 10 hours rest, and 12 hours of duty would allow our trips to be productive and eliminate some of the useless sitting around we do.
If you really want to get creative call your representatives and propose the Airline Reform Act, guaranteeing crewmembers 14 days off a month for fatigue and sanity purposes.
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