SkyWest Ends its Midwest Agreement
#111
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Do you mean like how their football team has been pounded by the SEC the last few years.
#112
Hey, Duck, I was thinking along the lines that if don't get a "profit bonus" this year-end, I hope we at LEAST get the ham....lol. It's amazing how many crew actually depend on that bonus for their kids presents, that's sad that they have to depend on that, and if we don't get it even sadder.
Looking like we could end up with bupkis this year if the well dries up as someone else put.
Looking like we could end up with bupkis this year if the well dries up as someone else put.
#113
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#114
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I think you guys are misunderstanding my position in the Q Pay. I want a fair rate or no airframes. I will never vote for a "get them on property first" pay rate much like what happened with the CR7's. My posting was nothing more than my opinion on what would happen here at SKW if Mgmnt put the Q possibility to a vote. I believe it would pass because of all the Kool-Aid drinkers here at SKW. You know the ones; they are the very same ones who approved those CR7's at CR2 rate. They are the very same ones who approved the 0% raise for EMB pilots, 1% for the CR2 and the BS Brad Holt Override (BHO) back in 06. They are the very same ones who voted yes for the last pay increase in 07 even though it was 5% (on average) less than ASA, didn't establish completely separate pay rates for the CR2 & CR7/9's and it included a joke of a COLA.
To date I’ve NEVER voted YES at SKW and if the Q’s went to a vote, it would make it my 5th “NO” vote. But I’m in the minority and I know that most all of the SKW posters on the forum share most of my minority views.
To date I’ve NEVER voted YES at SKW and if the Q’s went to a vote, it would make it my 5th “NO” vote. But I’m in the minority and I know that most all of the SKW posters on the forum share most of my minority views.
#115
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Thanks for your thoughts, but it's a pretty myopic viewpoint.
Those industry-leading payscales that were hard fought in the past don't lead to success in the future. You think we've been kickin' tail for the last 10 years? It sure wasn't from getting Horizon wages...or Comair wages...or Air Wisconsin wages.
You see sir, it's a fine balance between what's fair, practical, and possible. CRJ200 base rate is all three in my opinion. Higher margins for United and SkyWest, increased opportunity for the SkyWest pilots and, most importantly, sustainability.
Those industry-leading payscales that were hard fought in the past don't lead to success in the future. You think we've been kickin' tail for the last 10 years? It sure wasn't from getting Horizon wages...or Comair wages...or Air Wisconsin wages.
You see sir, it's a fine balance between what's fair, practical, and possible. CRJ200 base rate is all three in my opinion. Higher margins for United and SkyWest, increased opportunity for the SkyWest pilots and, most importantly, sustainability.
To date “Jerry and Friends” have proven to be very trustworthy. Also keep in mind that if SKW Mgmnt wanted something (Q’s rates at EMB +5% or RJ pay cuts) they could always just do it, after all we are non-union.
To date SKW has always paid a “fair” wage. Yes not an industry leading but total compensation wise it is very competitive. And yes we didn't have to fight for it; those at Comair, ASA, XJT, Mesaba, etc did the work for us many years ago. I wish more would realize that without the support of “others” there would be no “ours.”
To date SKW has always paid a “fair” wage. Yes not an industry leading but total compensation wise it is very competitive. And yes we didn't have to fight for it; those at Comair, ASA, XJT, Mesaba, etc did the work for us many years ago. I wish more would realize that without the support of “others” there would be no “ours.”
By the way, doesn't SKW already have pay rates for that size aircraft? I'm too lazy right now to look it up. As a side note, another thing that JA and Co wanted from their buyout of XJT was a pre-negotiated rate for Q400.
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