JetBlue FO's paid more than Republic CA's!!
06-03-2009, 05:28 PM
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I would argue that in today's day and age, it is definitely a career airline. JetBlue's A320 pay across the board is significantly greater than the United AND US Airways A320 scale, and most think that United and US Air are career airlines. Heck, a year 1 captain at JetBlue makes more than top-of-the-scale captain at either of these airlines.
06-03-2009, 05:32 PM
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Why shouldn't an ALPA carrier not only match, but aim to exceed, the level set by a non-union carrier?
06-03-2009, 05:36 PM
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06-03-2009, 05:44 PM
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I would be more than happy to fly 9 legs a day in a B1900- if it paid six figures. Hell- if I found a six figure job flying a Cessna 152- I would make that a career position.
When pilots start thinking outside of the mold and holding each other to higher standards, things will improve.
We are our own worst enemy when it comes to pay.
06-03-2009, 05:47 PM
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The new JetBlue rates are out and here is how they compare to the rates that Republic pilots agreed to fly for. These will be rates they will be doing flying that used to be done by Midwest Airline pilots. What makes it really sad is that after year 3, JetBlue First Officers make more than the Republic Captains.
1st Year Jet Blue CA = $138/hr
1st Year RAH CA___ = $64/hr
1st Year Jet Blue FO = $47/hr
1st Year RAH FO___ = $23/hr
1st Year Jet Blue Total Cockpit = $185/hr
1st Year RAH Total Cockpit______ = $87/hr
4th Year Jet Blue CA = $143/hr
4th Year RAH CA___ = $75/hr
4th Year Jet Blue FO = $79/hr
4th Year RAH FO___ = $37/hr **This is the maximum pay for RAH FO's!
4th Year Jet Blue Total Cockpit = $222/hr
4th Year RAH Total Cockpit______ = $112/hr
Let me even go farther for you
12th Year Jet Blue CA = $159/hr
12th Year RAH CA___ = $96/hr
12th Year Jet Blue FO = $97/hr
12th Year RAH FO___ = $37/hr **still only $37/hr!
12th Year Jet Blue Total Cockpit = $256/hr
12th Year RAH Total Cockpit_____ = $133/hr
1st Year Jet Blue CA = $138/hr
1st Year RAH CA___ = $64/hr
1st Year Jet Blue FO = $47/hr
1st Year RAH FO___ = $23/hr
1st Year Jet Blue Total Cockpit = $185/hr
1st Year RAH Total Cockpit______ = $87/hr
4th Year Jet Blue CA = $143/hr
4th Year RAH CA___ = $75/hr
4th Year Jet Blue FO = $79/hr
4th Year RAH FO___ = $37/hr **This is the maximum pay for RAH FO's!
4th Year Jet Blue Total Cockpit = $222/hr
4th Year RAH Total Cockpit______ = $112/hr
Let me even go farther for you
12th Year Jet Blue CA = $159/hr
12th Year RAH CA___ = $96/hr
12th Year Jet Blue FO = $97/hr
12th Year RAH FO___ = $37/hr **still only $37/hr!
12th Year Jet Blue Total Cockpit = $256/hr
12th Year RAH Total Cockpit_____ = $133/hr
Why is it sad? Republic is a regional that flies 170's and 175's, B6 is, no matter what you say, a mainline carrier and flies 190's and 320's. ALL airline pay is too low, don't get me wrong, but why would these two companies be compared?
06-03-2009, 05:54 PM
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Why is it sad? Republic is a regional that flies 170's and 175's, B6 is, no matter what you say, a mainline carrier and flies 190's and 320's. ALL airline pay is too low, don't get me wrong, but why would these two companies be compared?[/QUOTE]
Ding, ding, ding!! I was wondering when someone would bring that up. JB rates? Eh, eh, not gonna happen. Close would be nice but...
06-03-2009, 05:56 PM
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[QUOTE Lowlevel]
Why is it sad? Republic is a regional that flies 170's and 175's, B6 is, no matter what you say, a mainline carrier and flies 190's and 320's. ALL airline pay is too low, don't get me wrong, but why would these two companies be compared?[/QUOTE]
Because they operate some of the same size equipment B6 does so it should be a goal to exceed B6 pay. It doesn't matter if they're a regional or a major.
That attitude needs to change NOW!!! Unbelievable!!!
I am willing to stay off RAH pilots backs until they get the opportunity to negotiate new rates. But if substantial pay hikes are not achieved(minimum B6 match) I will have very little respect for them. Until then, good luck & safe skies.
Why is it sad? Republic is a regional that flies 170's and 175's, B6 is, no matter what you say, a mainline carrier and flies 190's and 320's. ALL airline pay is too low, don't get me wrong, but why would these two companies be compared?[/QUOTE]
Because they operate some of the same size equipment B6 does so it should be a goal to exceed B6 pay. It doesn't matter if they're a regional or a major.
That attitude needs to change NOW!!! Unbelievable!!! I am willing to stay off RAH pilots backs until they get the opportunity to negotiate new rates. But if substantial pay hikes are not achieved(minimum B6 match) I will have very little respect for them. Until then, good luck & safe skies.
06-03-2009, 06:03 PM
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Why shouldn't it happen? I think many guys @ RAH will stay mainly because they are happy in the E170s. With the E190 door now open that's even more that might stay. That means that not only should CAs worth about much better payrates, but FOs should worry even more because they'll be in the right seat for a much longer time. It would be foolish to start off with anything less then B6 rates + 1-2%.
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