Fact about 100 Seat A/C's at Regionals
#31
The MEC's for PDT, ALG, and PSA met and agreed on what they would fly the CRJ's for so Airways couldn't whipsaw them against each other. After the meeting, the PSA MEC went behind PDT's and ALG's backs and undercut them to get the jets. According to the union people I flew with at PDT, PSA would have probably gotten the jets anyways, because they needed to get rid of the Dornier t-props. However, because of the way it went down, most PDT guys were not big fans of PSA.
#33
I think folks need to keep a couple of things in mind at all times in this airline business...
One, we are employees, not board members. Those of us from the real legacy carriers...the ones no longer around...know a little about that.
Two...at some point in your career, you will either be on the inside looking out...or the outside looking in. Be prepared to discover just how far your altruistic ideals go when tested in the crucible of reality.
I think you will find that unionism is the finest in human idealism and the worst in human nature.
One, we are employees, not board members. Those of us from the real legacy carriers...the ones no longer around...know a little about that.
Two...at some point in your career, you will either be on the inside looking out...or the outside looking in. Be prepared to discover just how far your altruistic ideals go when tested in the crucible of reality.
I think you will find that unionism is the finest in human idealism and the worst in human nature.
I understand you wanna stick out for your company, but this is ridiculous!
#34
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Joined APC: May 2007
Posts: 698
Good post Bond. I'm going to post these JetBlue and Republic rates, so people can really see the difference. Remember, most pilots think the JetBlue rates are low and they are currently working with their management on raising them. However, looking at the two companies side by side, you can see how low the Republic pilots are compensated for the same aircraft.
1st Year Jet Blue CA = $88/hr
1st Year RAH CA___ = $64/hr
1st Year Jet Blue FO = $40/hr
1st Year RAH FO___ = $23/hr
1st Year Jet Blue Total Cockpit = $128/hr
1st Year RAH Total Cockpit______ = $87/hr
4th Year Jet Blue CA = $94/hr
4th Year RAH CA___ = $75/hr
4th Year Jet Blue FO = $58/hr
4th Year RAH FO___ = $37/hr **This is the maximum pay for RAH FO's!
4th Year Jet Blue Total Cockpit = $152/hr
4th Year RAH Total Cockpit______ = $112/hr
Let me even go farther for you
12th Year Jet Blue CA = $110/hr
12th Year RAH CA___ = $96/hr
12th Year Jet Blue FO = $70/hr
12th Year RAH FO___ = $37/hr **still only $37/hr!
12th Year Jet Blue Total Cockpit = $180/hr
12th Year RAH Total Cockpit_____ = $133/hr
Now, there is a FACT you can sink your teeth around.
1st Year Jet Blue CA = $88/hr
1st Year RAH CA___ = $64/hr
1st Year Jet Blue FO = $40/hr
1st Year RAH FO___ = $23/hr
1st Year Jet Blue Total Cockpit = $128/hr
1st Year RAH Total Cockpit______ = $87/hr
4th Year Jet Blue CA = $94/hr
4th Year RAH CA___ = $75/hr
4th Year Jet Blue FO = $58/hr
4th Year RAH FO___ = $37/hr **This is the maximum pay for RAH FO's!
4th Year Jet Blue Total Cockpit = $152/hr
4th Year RAH Total Cockpit______ = $112/hr
Let me even go farther for you
12th Year Jet Blue CA = $110/hr
12th Year RAH CA___ = $96/hr
12th Year Jet Blue FO = $70/hr
12th Year RAH FO___ = $37/hr **still only $37/hr!
12th Year Jet Blue Total Cockpit = $180/hr
12th Year RAH Total Cockpit_____ = $133/hr
Now, there is a FACT you can sink your teeth around.
#35
1) The individual has never been exposed to a life outside the sheltered life provided by his parents.
2) The individual comes from a long family tradition of line crossers, and he's been brain washed into thinking is ok to back stab his brothers and sisters.
3) Or simply Shinny Jet Syndrome has reached new heights among the early 20's wannabes on this site.
I'm trying to give this individual the benefit of the doubt, cause I don't think anyone could be that dumb.
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 161
its funny how everyone bashed on Mesa for bringing down the Regional industry..now we can thank Republic for the demise of the entire industry...This type of outsourcing is just unbelievable. Yes Air Wisky flew 100 seat airplanes for United back in the day but that was still a feed into the hubs, not a replacement as Republic is doing.
#38
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Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: Right...CL65
Posts: 279
its funny how everyone bashed on Mesa for bringing down the Regional industry..now we can thank Republic for the demise of the entire industry...This type of outsourcing is just unbelievable. Yes Air Wisky flew 100 seat airplanes for United back in the day but that was still a feed into the hubs, not a replacement as Republic is doing.
#39
I'm not.
Nor did I take a position on this current situation. If I did, it would be something like this...make your choice of where you want to work. Just remember...you don't get to dictate the rules...the best you can do is try to negotiate them, and in this employment environment, no pilot group has a strong hand, particularly in the regionals...them's the breaks.
The expression is "stick up", not "stick out", btw.
#40
I wouldn't doubt that. RAH pilots must realize however that the short term raise in pay for flying their new aircraft will only transfer into less career earnings in the long run. And that goes for everyone. RAH pilots cannot accept this. Even though we are employees of a company we have the duty to a profession to maintain what is right. The same as we do our best to change policy that may have unsafe ramifications. You must come together and say no.
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