Can regionals survive w/o mainline contract
05-24-2009, 12:25 PM
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No, but if they don't like the ones they have, they can always dump them and create new ones...
- Used RJ's cheap from the desert.
- Multi-DUI street captains and 300-hour FO's who are willing to work for peanuts and are afraid to stand up to abuse.
- Everybody on year one longevity.
- Company-defined payscale, workrules, and employee policies.
- No union to start with.
What's not to love?
- Used RJ's cheap from the desert.
- Multi-DUI street captains and 300-hour FO's who are willing to work for peanuts and are afraid to stand up to abuse.
- Everybody on year one longevity.
- Company-defined payscale, workrules, and employee policies.
- No union to start with.
What's not to love?
05-24-2009, 12:34 PM
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Sure they could. The mainline pilots do ALL the flying for the airline. The reason that mainline companies outsource it to low-pay pilots is, well, because they're CHEAPER. And not just the pilots . . all employee groups at the commuter.
Commuter pilots complain about their compensation and the fact that there's no road anymore to a decent aviation career.
If you show up for work, that's what you're worth.
Commuter pilots complain about their compensation and the fact that there's no road anymore to a decent aviation career.
If you show up for work, that's what you're worth.
05-24-2009, 03:25 PM
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05-24-2009, 04:39 PM
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05-24-2009, 05:12 PM
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Can mainline survive with out the regionals....yes...and no...
YES .... if they either create more regionals ... or if they fly it all in house...
NO... they can not survive with out the feed from the cities now served by their regional partners in some form or fashion.
SWA does not use a traditional hub and spoke... but they do have hubs... and more and more of their flying is hub style flying.
YES .... if they either create more regionals ... or if they fly it all in house...
NO... they can not survive with out the feed from the cities now served by their regional partners in some form or fashion.
SWA does not use a traditional hub and spoke... but they do have hubs... and more and more of their flying is hub style flying.
05-25-2009, 03:28 AM
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No they can't. It's all about cost. The seat mile costs are too high for an all regional fleet. That before we talk about start up costs with call centers, computer reservation systems and other expenses to get going.
If ASA or Comair just decided to not fly for Delta anymore or say Delta did not want them to fly flights for them, would the regional carrier be able to survive as a stand alone carrier. I know way back when regional airlines were literally regional. Would that same concept work today?
05-25-2009, 03:29 AM
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