The Rah Guys Better Like The E190
#31
Then I'd say it's not possible for you guys to get hired at a mainline carrier in the wake of this E190 disgrace.
You guys have a contract with rates for a 99 seater. You made that possible!
Stuck with it for now? You're commiting career suicide and will be stuck at Rah for good!
JJ
You guys have a contract with rates for a 99 seater. You made that possible!
Stuck with it for now? You're commiting career suicide and will be stuck at Rah for good!
JJ
Do you think Major hiring boards care? Most of them are made up of HR people now a days. They don't care.
Plus, who the Heck is hiring? NOBODY. Lots of furloughs coming in the fall.
#36
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
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I pose this question to you, would you really like to see 75% of your fellow pilots laid off? The answer (I am assuming here) is no and neither would I nor the majority of reasonable individuals. Comments such as these do little more than infuriate and inflame; that was probably your intent I know. However, they offer zero contribution to solving any problems.
I personally do not wish to see anyone lose their jobs. The loss of a job affects a person. A person that may have children, a wife, a mortgage, etc. You probably have seen this first hand and realize the pain and suffering it causes. I understand your frustration but wishing the job loss of 1,552 pilots (give or take) would mean a lot of potential damage to those that depend on them.
My point is this, society is already a swirling cesspool spiraling deeper and deeper into the oblivion. We as pilots are less than 1% of the population. Let's try to keep our heads up and out of the sewer around us.
Happy Memorial Day and God Bless our Troops!
Last edited by Tiger2Flying; 05-23-2009 at 05:41 AM.
#37
First, let's not forget it is Memorial Day weekend and remember all those who have given their lives in defense of our country and the liberties we hold so dear (including the freedom of speech and expression we take for granted on APF).
Second, not all mainline guys forget that it was their own fault that the situation has developed to what it has become. I have flown with some, though very few, that have said they have only themselves to blame. Most guys do trash and bad mouth the feeder carriers as the cause of their problems and like to take it out on the little guy. Ticks me off since I was one of the little guys who flew where management told me, etc.
Third, the way for this to end is to hold the line. RAH guys can keep voting 'NO' on their contract until the company coughs up the work rules and pay rates that are worthy of a professional pilot...not a regional pilot, big jet pilot...A PROFESSIONAL PILOT. You can get what you want if you stick together and not get fooled by management's dangling of more airplane orders, quick upgrades, and even more pilots on the seniority list.
Finally, on a locked thread someone mentioned "this will only lead us down the road to majors having regional contracts with regional work rules with only slightly better pay." Well at some majors that is already the case. There are far worse work rules at my current company than my previous employer thanks to a concessionary contract that should never have been voted in when it was put to a vote.
Second, not all mainline guys forget that it was their own fault that the situation has developed to what it has become. I have flown with some, though very few, that have said they have only themselves to blame. Most guys do trash and bad mouth the feeder carriers as the cause of their problems and like to take it out on the little guy. Ticks me off since I was one of the little guys who flew where management told me, etc.
Third, the way for this to end is to hold the line. RAH guys can keep voting 'NO' on their contract until the company coughs up the work rules and pay rates that are worthy of a professional pilot...not a regional pilot, big jet pilot...A PROFESSIONAL PILOT. You can get what you want if you stick together and not get fooled by management's dangling of more airplane orders, quick upgrades, and even more pilots on the seniority list.
Finally, on a locked thread someone mentioned "this will only lead us down the road to majors having regional contracts with regional work rules with only slightly better pay." Well at some majors that is already the case. There are far worse work rules at my current company than my previous employer thanks to a concessionary contract that should never have been voted in when it was put to a vote.
#38
Nobody is going to be skipped over from future hiring for the sole reason that they flew the 190 at Republic.
NOBODY.
NOBODY.
#39
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: B757/767
Posts: 13,088
No, not for the SOLE reason. But I have NO doubts that someone has friends that once flew for Midwest, & could conviently find other reasons for sending the 'No Thanks' letter.
#40
If GoJet pilots got hired by FedEx, UPS, Southwest, and every other major who was hiring until the music stopped...do folks really think Republic pilots will be anything remotely akin to "blacklisted" simply because they're flying a narrowbody jet?
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