Embarrassing
05-18-2009, 09:54 AM
#21
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Position: Maddog FO
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No... Embarrassing is being in ATL yesterday and seeing a Pinnacle pilot with big old "Dog the Bounty Hunter style" sunglasses sitting on the back of his head, a huge silver belt buckle, Doc Martin style shoes, and listening an MP3 player while walking through the terminal. Embarrassing is seeing pilots walk through a terminal with their shirts dirty and half untucked. Embarrassing are the past couple of accidents, and how pilots had total disregard for flying their aircraft safely. Have some pride in yourself and your career (regardless of how much you make) and the public perception will shift.
I'm very proud to be a professional pilot, and you'll see that pride in everything I do related to my career. If you're not proud to be in this career, you should switch careers.
I'm very proud to be a professional pilot, and you'll see that pride in everything I do related to my career. If you're not proud to be in this career, you should switch careers.
05-18-2009, 10:28 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: DAL Pilot
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I agree to a point, though its near impossible not to have a wrinkled shirt after flying 8 legs in 15 hours with no APU. Its difficult not to have a stain of oil/grim on the back of your shirt after preflighting 8 times. Its very hard not to have stains on your shirt from the fast food you had to eat on the flight deck during your cruise which was only 15 mins.
Our world has two classes. Guys who work like dogs and guys that dont. I give the guys that hump it 5 plus legs a day a little latitude.
Our world has two classes. Guys who work like dogs and guys that dont. I give the guys that hump it 5 plus legs a day a little latitude.
05-18-2009, 10:47 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Trade Slave
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I agree totally. If you put credit card readers in the cockpits of some of these planes... and require payment by the pilot in order to complete the starting engine checklist... half of these guys on here would probably swipe until the magnetic strip right wears right off.
05-18-2009, 11:19 AM
#24
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Position: Assistant (to the) Regional Captain
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05-18-2009, 11:26 AM
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05-18-2009, 11:36 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
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You, like dozens of other pilots with your mindset, are the reason why our profession will never improve. If we all unifiy together to improve our work rules, this profession could improve.
Sadly, there are too many pilots who still have not gotten into the 121 world, and are impatiently waiting to do anything possible to get there (or others like you who had a brief taste).
After being abused for 6 or 7 years though, you will realize how badly things need to improve. But it will be too late, some eager young flight instructor will be more than willing to replace you at your job and fly for a terrible contract for pennies on the dollar. The cycle repeats itself again.
Sadly, there are too many pilots who still have not gotten into the 121 world, and are impatiently waiting to do anything possible to get there (or others like you who had a brief taste).
After being abused for 6 or 7 years though, you will realize how badly things need to improve. But it will be too late, some eager young flight instructor will be more than willing to replace you at your job and fly for a terrible contract for pennies on the dollar. The cycle repeats itself again.
I am not willing to take a job at the expense of someone else by doing it cheaper just for the sake of being able to fly an airplane. If I felt that way, I would have applied across the hall when I found out that I was getting furloughed. However, I enjoy what I do for a living and I am proud of the fact that I am a pilot. It has nothing to do with whose airplane I am flying, it is just simple pride in the work that I do, period.
And I would much rather be on the payroll right now as opposed to being furloughed so that I would be able to cast my vote for a strike in an effort to try and improve things. It is time that we take a stand, stand together, and let management know that we are here for the fight, and we either negotiate a fair contract or we walk.
Don't misunderstand what I am saying as what many people new to the industry are willing to do. I was abused part 135, abused part 121 for the last 2 years and I am happier sitting on my couch at home than helping contribute to the demise of the indsutry. I am just bummed about being on the ground on such a nice day, that is all.
05-18-2009, 11:52 AM
#27
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: PIC
Posts: 95
So are you trying to say that you had no idea about the pay until the Colgan accident, if so you're a little behind the curve there.....I refuse to agree with the comment that regional pilots have "low pilot skills", some have made bad decisions but the skills were there.
*for some, not all
05-18-2009, 12:15 PM
#29
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Don't misunderstand what I am saying as what many people new to the industry are willing to do. I was abused part 135, abused part 121 for the last 2 years and I am happier sitting on my couch at home than helping contribute to the demise of the indsutry. I am just bummed about being on the ground on such a nice day, that is all.
I was abused before I was furloughed and again since I've been back. I was much happier being unemployed getting to do whatever I wanted whenever I chose. But in the long run I'll be much happier with a steady paycheck and building flight time.
05-18-2009, 12:20 PM
#30
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