Embarrassing
05-18-2009, 08:26 AM
#11
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I agree totally. If you put credit card readers in the cockpits of some of these planes... and require payment by the pilot in order to complete the starting engine checklist... half of these guys on here would probably swipe until the magnetic strip right wears right off.
05-18-2009, 08:32 AM
#12
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I agree totally. If you put credit card readers in the cockpits of some of these planes... and require payment by the pilot in order to complete the starting engine checklist... half of these guys on here would probably swipe until the magnetic strip right wears right off.
05-18-2009, 08:32 AM
#13
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No... Embarrassing is being in ATL yesterday and seeing a Pinnacle pilot with big old "Dog the Bounty Hunter style" sunglasses sitting on the back of his head, a huge silver belt buckle, Doc Martin style shoes, and listening an MP3 player while walking through the terminal. Embarrassing is seeing pilots walk through a terminal with their shirts dirty and half untucked. Embarrassing are the past couple of accidents, and how pilots had total disregard for flying their aircraft safely. Have some pride in yourself and your career (regardless of how much you make) and the public perception will shift.
Our world has two classes. Guys who work like dogs and guys that dont. I give the guys that hump it 5 plus legs a day a little latitude.
05-18-2009, 08:38 AM
#14
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I agree to a point, though its near impossible not to have a wrinkled shirt after flying 8 legs in 15 hours with no APU. Its difficult not to have a stain of oil/grim on the back of your shirt after preflighting 8 times. Its very hard not to have stains on your shirt from the fast food you had to eat on the flight deck during your cruise which was only 15 mins.
Our world has two classes. Guys who work like dogs and guys that dont. I give the guys that hump it 5 plus legs a day a little latitude.
Our world has two classes. Guys who work like dogs and guys that dont. I give the guys that hump it 5 plus legs a day a little latitude.
05-18-2009, 08:38 AM
#15
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NEWSFLASH!!!!!
The flying public doesn't care what our salaries are!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no consideration on their behalf, so stop believing there is a public interest story here.
If you honestly believe that a passenger considers what the pilots are being paid before he/she buys that $100 ticket on Expedia to fly from NY to LA, then you seriously have misunderstood capitalism and the art of subcontracting.
Sad, but true.
The flying public doesn't care what our salaries are!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no consideration on their behalf, so stop believing there is a public interest story here.
If you honestly believe that a passenger considers what the pilots are being paid before he/she buys that $100 ticket on Expedia to fly from NY to LA, then you seriously have misunderstood capitalism and the art of subcontracting.
Sad, but true.
05-18-2009, 08:44 AM
#16
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Like getting kicked when you're down.... I know.
Wonder how many pax pop their head into the cockpit now before boarding a regional / turboprop to see the "experience" of their crew.
Wondering also how those slobs I flew with at the regionals back in the late 80's and early 90's (or their equivalent today with the backpacks and ipods) who took 0 pride in their uniform, and 0 pride in their appearance are being viewed by the public..
05-18-2009, 08:46 AM
#17
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I don't think they do not care. The public is forced to trust that we are safe and professional. Do you think Grandma has any means if figuring out who the "good" airlines are when buying her ticket? The public only trusts that the FAA is looking out foe them. Last week's shocker that we make peanuts won't make the public suddenly change as there is no means for them to. Only by the government or the airlines themselves can the public be assured pilots are trained and paid well.
05-18-2009, 08:46 AM
#18
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No... Embarrassing is being in ATL yesterday and seeing a Pinnacle pilot with big old "Dog the Bounty Hunter style" sunglasses sitting on the back of his head, a huge silver belt buckle, Doc Martin style shoes, and listening an MP3 player while walking through the terminal. Embarrassing is seeing pilots walk through a terminal with their shirts dirty and half untucked. Embarrassing are the past couple of accidents, and how pilots had total disregard for flying their aircraft safely. Have some pride in yourself and your career (regardless of how much you make) and the public perception will shift.
I'm very proud to be a professional pilot, and you'll see that pride in everything I do related to my career. If you're not proud to be in this career, you should switch careers.
I'm very proud to be a professional pilot, and you'll see that pride in everything I do related to my career. If you're not proud to be in this career, you should switch careers.
Should have read this before I posted... Amen brother. It was a sad day for me when DAL told me no (I fumbled the 3 on 1 interview questions)..
I wanted to join the ranks of a truly professional pilot group. Alas, maybe some day I will.
05-18-2009, 09:53 AM
#20
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Then don't be one anymore. I am very happy with my decision to be a pilot, not necessarily the airline I chose to work for, but still. I would much rather be driving an airplane right now then be sitting on my couch at home unemployed. If it embarasses you that much, I will gladly trade places with you.
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