Originally Posted by broncoflyer8912

All 12 ATRs were flying last summer, they started removing 2-3 from service each month until December.

As an ATR pilot who went through training again (minus Basic Indoc) to get transitioned to the CRJ, they have completely refined the process thanks to Jim from the ATR training department taking over the CRJ training department.

Training now consists of two weeks of system lectures which are also combined with FMS training at the end of the day. Also instead of paper tigers, they have replaced that with Graphical Flight Simulator training which is you sitting in front of a mock cockpit that has a big computer screen where all the panels are, and now when you push the button it does something, and you can actually see what is happening when you are doing you flow, etc. You continue with a week of GenOps while also finishing off you GFS training. You also don't get to move on to SIM training until they know you have all your flows down, and have thorough systems knowledge. After that is your typical sim training. The whole process took a month and a half.

Originally Posted by gtechpilot

Sorry, should have been more clear - if you were recalled this month, why would it cost more than getting a PC (which is due this month anyway)? A lot of folks are saying we didn't recall for the summer flying because of the cost but no one can explain why. Again, that wouldn't be fair to you guys but I don't get why people are saying it would cost so much to recall now.

Originally Posted by newKnow

Dude,

If you took the time to go thru all of that, you did figure that you should be in management, right?

I mean, you're trying to save money for them that they are NOT trying to save.

Throw bonuses, good press, stockholder options, golf course deals, and just plain ignorance into the equation and well, there is no equation. It's the American way. Save you time and energy and go to law school. Then become an executive and woo them with your fancy numbers and have one of us (me) fly you around (Rio).


I'll stay there (Rio) as long as you want. Hell, base me there and I won't even tell them that you used to be a pilot. Just give me 72 hours before I have to check in (And no destinations that require de-icing).

New K Now

Originally Posted by surreal1221

Well that's wonderful. Still going to cost the company money to "retrain" 80 people, at 2nd year pay, for 6-8 weeks. While, paying IPs their instructor pay.

Originally Posted by FlyASA

According to the latest email from Scott there will be a reduction of about 9,000 block hours (46,000-37,000) in the fall. 37,000 will remain consistent until the summer of 2010 unless the economy improves or Delta decides to give us more flying from someone else. It looks like we will all be stuck on the street for awhile.

Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo

37000 hours means we will be flying just about 800 flights a day until summer 2010 . That is about what we have been doing in may... It is a large reduction and seems to hint that they will leave the manning levels alone until they decide what to do with the 50's. If the 50's are placed at some airline then you guys will be back at the start of 2010. That's just my guess...

Another thing struck me as interesting was that they seem to be anticipating larger block hours next summer. After taking 20 50 seat jets out of service one would think they would reduce hours... I wonder if delta just plans to increase aircraft usage or if ASA is building in the idea of placing those aircraft into their calculations.

Originally Posted by Jetjock65

I dont want to go back to ASA until they have enough flying for us to do> Being stuck in ATL at a crashpad for 4-5 days and not flying sucks, and I dont want to do it. Call me back when staffing levels are where a reserve guy/gal is at least making 85 hours of credit!!!