Eagle/TSA Jets Failing Inspections
05-08-2009, 12:29 PM
#52
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Hi!
The Falcon 20s I flew were limited to FL350. I flew one long-range cruise from YIP-ELP and we were down to .56 at altitude for best range. A lot of them would not make it to .74 with max continuous.
Very slow...
cliff
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The Falcon 20s I flew were limited to FL350. I flew one long-range cruise from YIP-ELP and we were down to .56 at altitude for best range. A lot of them would not make it to .74 with max continuous.
Very slow...
cliff
NBO
05-08-2009, 12:42 PM
#53
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I'd never thought a Falcon could get in the way of a CE-500......
05-10-2009, 06:12 PM
#54
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You have to cut them some slack. Their systems class isn't as ridiculously in depth as AMR's was/is. Yes, they do learn how to fly the plane, and how most systems work.... but that how to build it stuff, and how it interacts and works together crap is reserved for Sky Nazi school.... or in your case Junior Sky Nazi school. End result is don't expect to see them coming online as fast as you guys thought. The mx issues are much more in depth than were anticipated, and the FSDO has launched an investigation.
Between the upcomming maintenance issue, and the soon to happen strike vote, I hope people plan on shorting the stock, and not going long.
05-10-2009, 07:01 PM
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You have to cut them some slack. Their systems class isn't as ridiculously in depth as AMR's was/is. Yes, they do learn how to fly the plane, and how most systems work.... but that how to build it stuff, and how it interacts and works together crap is reserved for Sky Nazi school.... or in your case Junior Sky Nazi school.
I'd be willing to put the systems knowledge of most of our captains up against most at Eagle. Waterskiers deal with more DMI's and MX safety issues before upgrade than most 15 yr captains at Eagle.
Our systems knowledge is strong just out of necessity of self-preservation.
05-10-2009, 07:41 PM
#56
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That bumps you down to a "D-" for both oblectivity and credibility.
As a 20 year captain for Eagle, the claim that your 3 year F/O's have more system knowledge then myself or other senior Eagle captains is baseless propwash. I'll assume it was just thoughtless emotion and misguided youth.
One thing is becoming increasingly obvious.........TSA maintenance is illegal and dangerous and TSA should be shutdown until the flying public's safety can be reasonable assured.
05-10-2009, 08:10 PM
#57
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They're so good they don't need the stinking gear.
05-10-2009, 08:17 PM
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1) Our captains have just as much, if not more, systems knowledge as yours.
2) We deal with many more systems related issues on a daily basis due to our MX than you do.
You can put 1 and 2 together in a blender and come out with your above quote, but that's not what I said. Also, I did not belittle anyone. I just said our captains are on par with yours from a knowledge standpoint because we NEED to be.
05-10-2009, 08:26 PM
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05-10-2009, 09:18 PM
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Unless you guys at TSA have different E-145's, the Takeoff config Warning only looks at Parking Brake, Flaps, Spoilers, and Trim. Stay in the books.
Last edited by blastoff; 05-10-2009 at 09:28 PM.
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