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Old 04-29-2009, 07:01 AM
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We all could use a sugar momma!
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:29 PM
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The whole "paying your dues" phrase is bull**** because its really a relative thing. Someone that has gone through multiple furloughs and divorce might have a different perspective then the guy that was at Skywest for 5 years then went to Southwest and been on reserve for a total of 5 months...

If you can exactly quantify "paying your dues" I might buy into the phrase, otherwise it ****es me off.

It really boils down to choices and consequences, not "deserve," not "justice" and not "dues."
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all the more reason NOT to work overtime.
[/list]Yep, a shrinking economy is a factor. Just as pilots flying overtime is a factor. Pilots as a group do not have control over the economy, you do have control over working voluntary overtime.
If AmericanEagleFO is a typical American Eagle pilot, your union is screwed Mason.
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We ARE proabably screwed, but it's really a lack of leadership that is hurting us most.
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We ARE proabably screwed, but it's really a lack of leadership that is hurting us most.
If the union drew a line in the sand, I of course would not cross it. Mason doesn't work at eagle.
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Old 04-30-2009, 08:11 AM
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My understanding is that the only line our union draws is in the interest of their cushy positions and cozy relationship with management. The group that's been in power the last 8 years or so is no better then the one before it.

Enjoy your open time. When leaders lead then you may follow, until then it appears every pilot for himself.
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Top 5 furloughs just received notice they will not be sent to the street!

First positive step to this thread becoming moot. Keep praying
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The entire pilot group is on its knees praying too..........of course, that's where we've been for quite some time.
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If AmericanEagleFO is a typical American Eagle pilot, your union is screwed Mason.
I'm not there, but I have many friends who are, and unfortunately he is very typical of what they were hiring the last two years....
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If the union drew a line in the sand, I of course would not cross it. Mason doesn't work at eagle.

That's just it.... the union CAN'T do that. Your a college educated person right? How about investing just a little time to find out about the laws governing your profession.

They can send out emails, and reminders about flying safe, not pushing yourself too hard, not risking being fatigued and things such as that, but they CAN NOT put out something that would directly be viewed as a job action.

What they can say, the have... it is up to you to read between the lines. However, since you refuse to do the right thing, until the union does the wrong/illegal thing by telling you too... I guess the rest of your coworkers shouldn't expect much from you.

and you are correct, I do not work there. That doesn't mean I never worked for, or don't still work for AMR, but I am not on Eagles payroll.
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