RAH and 190's
04-06-2009, 01:52 PM
#61
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These threads are always so much fun to read, it's honestly what keeps me coming back.
"It's the regionals fault...... No, it's the majors fault......No, it's management's/union's fault......No it's ADD and Shiny Jet Sydrome's fault......No, it's global warming and El Nino...... etc, etc, etc"
They should sticky all the threads that turn into this, but keep them at the bottom of the last thread page instead of the top of page one. Easier to find that way, and it keeps them away from useful and informative posts.
I'm grabbing a beer and some popcorn......
"It's the regionals fault...... No, it's the majors fault......No, it's management's/union's fault......No it's ADD and Shiny Jet Sydrome's fault......No, it's global warming and El Nino...... etc, etc, etc"
They should sticky all the threads that turn into this, but keep them at the bottom of the last thread page instead of the top of page one. Easier to find that way, and it keeps them away from useful and informative posts.
I'm grabbing a beer and some popcorn......
04-06-2009, 04:38 PM
#62
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: EMB
Posts: 126
Ballast - I have your back.
Listen guys, none of us at RAH want 190s. (except maybe the 5% of guys who are staying for life or who are completely clueless.) No one. Get it through your thick skulls that simply because we talk about it to no end, its not because we want it - its because we have a pretty strong feeling it is on the horizon. With that being said, IF they are to be flown by a regional - why not us? In this industry, your'e growing, or your'e dying. Like RSeatB says, I have career aspirations for a major one day myself. All of us at RAH know the day 190s show up here, its only one more step in the wrong direction. However, when our #2 puts out a video to the whole company saying our 190 pay rates are too high (note: in negotiations) - one cant help to speculate.
On the "you fly airplanes for dookie pay" front. Believe me, Im well aware.... Keep in mind, our contract was the FIRST NON-CONCESSIONARY CONTRACT AFTER 9/11. When it was signed, there were ZERO 170s on property. We learned from that mistake, and while there are no 190s here now - we WILL NOT sign a contract with more substandard pay and work rules for growth. When that contract was signed, we had a few hundred pilots. Now, we have a couple thousand. An entirely different company, and our contract will show it.
Flame at will. But you all should understand the reality of this situation. Wake up.
Listen guys, none of us at RAH want 190s. (except maybe the 5% of guys who are staying for life or who are completely clueless.) No one. Get it through your thick skulls that simply because we talk about it to no end, its not because we want it - its because we have a pretty strong feeling it is on the horizon. With that being said, IF they are to be flown by a regional - why not us? In this industry, your'e growing, or your'e dying. Like RSeatB says, I have career aspirations for a major one day myself. All of us at RAH know the day 190s show up here, its only one more step in the wrong direction. However, when our #2 puts out a video to the whole company saying our 190 pay rates are too high (note: in negotiations) - one cant help to speculate.
On the "you fly airplanes for dookie pay" front. Believe me, Im well aware.... Keep in mind, our contract was the FIRST NON-CONCESSIONARY CONTRACT AFTER 9/11. When it was signed, there were ZERO 170s on property. We learned from that mistake, and while there are no 190s here now - we WILL NOT sign a contract with more substandard pay and work rules for growth. When that contract was signed, we had a few hundred pilots. Now, we have a couple thousand. An entirely different company, and our contract will show it.
Flame at will. But you all should understand the reality of this situation. Wake up.
04-06-2009, 04:45 PM
#63
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,750
I once at a DB pilot who jumpseated on my CRJ-200. He looked around with the look of disgust and said something like, "I can't believe you guys get paid more than we do, to fly this smaller airplane." This really happened.
Yup, for real.
Don't EVER sell your soul. Because when it's gone, it's gone. You can't buy it back.
Yup, for real.
Don't EVER sell your soul. Because when it's gone, it's gone. You can't buy it back.
04-06-2009, 05:11 PM
#64
Che Guevara
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,408
Alright, i know it's been brought up before. So today, i was giving one of our "old" flight attendants a ride back to RIC, and i noticed that she was wearing a republic lanyard. She mentioned that she's currently there working on the 170/75 and said that on weds. she goes for a type of differences training on the 190 because "we're getting 190's apparently"....Anyway, i know that flight attendants are often not the MOST reliable source for airline information, but was wondering if anyone else had heard any information of this type also?
04-06-2009, 05:21 PM
#65
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04-06-2009, 05:34 PM
#66
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04-06-2009, 05:43 PM
#67
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No he never did say that. If you have a point to make argue it all you'd like but don't put words into other's mouths to do so.
04-06-2009, 06:04 PM
#68
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just like the "differences training" for a 170 to 175, or a CRJ200 to a 700-900...training on new limitations(weights etc), dimension, and the 190 has an over wing exit, 170-175 do not....same type rating but still require differences training.
04-06-2009, 06:08 PM
#69
Che Guevara
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Ah ok. I guess there are more doors.
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