Mesa to Furlough 100 additional pilots
03-26-2009, 10:18 AM
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Bunch of selfish idiots. Too bad we can't furlough 100 of the yes voters. They had no problem selling their fellow pilots down the river with a yes vote, so why should we care about their jobs?
03-26-2009, 10:22 AM
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No but really, I don't believe this is a direct result of PBS. I really did at first, but like I said, once I found out more info, I changed my tune of thinking. Yes it starts next bid, but I think that's just a coincidence. If attrition had kept up where it was in the fall, I don't think this would have happened. Then again, I'm just some pion pilot, and I have no idea what I'm talking about, so I could just be talking out of my you know what.
I actually agree with DublinFlyer that this is not Pbs related now that I look at this more closely. You can't just look at the roster for determining how far back this goes. There are people on leave and these numbers are incorrect. You have to look at the seniority list. From that it looks like it will go back to around 2/12/08 class, number 1307 on the list. Of those bottom 100, 35 are dash fo's. There are 64 pilots already on furlough from Mesa. Plus these 100 it will equal the approx. first 150 the company annouced back whenever September, and then the show generously cancelled because of Christmas. The only reason the cancelled these was because if they furloughed them guys there dash operation would have came to a hault. That's why they realized that they had to run this Displacement. Most of the classes are finished now, so they can continue with the furloughes. I beleive these 100 are not tied to PBS. That's why I believe in say June or July once the company figures the way to run pbs to get them the most bang for there buck you will see another furlough of even more pilots. So to you junior fo's in ORD and JFK hope you enjoy your block or better while it lasts, because you should have voted NO!
So lets see here, on the current seniority list (On Pilot louge, seniority list, "View All Domiciles"), is that the most up to date one, not including our 64 pilots we have on furlough now? I'm sure there is more involved with just pulling the bottom 100 off that list isn't there?
03-26-2009, 10:28 AM
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I agree. I look forward to the yes voters beginning to complain now that their contract is getting into full swing. Hate to say I told you so.
Bunch of selfish idiots. Too bad we can't furlough 100 of the yes voters. They had no problem selling their fellow pilots down the river with a yes vote, so why should we care about their jobs?
Bunch of selfish idiots. Too bad we can't furlough 100 of the yes voters. They had no problem selling their fellow pilots down the river with a yes vote, so why should we care about their jobs?
I expect the company to be a pain in the neck when it comes to contract implementation (ANY contract) as they are a bunch of worthless, lying, two timing scumbags - but if we can put our foot down with this contract, maybe the next one will be much better, and we can hold them accountable for their actions.
03-26-2009, 10:29 AM
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No but really, I don't believe this is a direct result of PBS
Yes it is. These furloughs won't be complete until summer, when PBS is fully up and running. The company trained some displacement people, and ran the numbers they need to run as lean as we ever have. They have that number, and they'll slowly chop down to it.
On the Dash, RSV CA's and F/O's are still flying 40-50 hours/month.
I'm sure there is more involved with just pulling the bottom 100 off that list isn't there?
Yes it is. These furloughs won't be complete until summer, when PBS is fully up and running. The company trained some displacement people, and ran the numbers they need to run as lean as we ever have. They have that number, and they'll slowly chop down to it.
On the Dash, RSV CA's and F/O's are still flying 40-50 hours/month.
I'm sure there is more involved with just pulling the bottom 100 off that list isn't there?
03-26-2009, 12:18 PM
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03-26-2009, 02:27 PM
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Well this is how Mesa does it. Look at the 49 in July that got about a 5 min notice. They were told in ground school that they were done. As well as the 14 furloughs and myself in October that got a two week notice. They never give much more than that...
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