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Old 05-17-2006, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WEACLRS
Respectively, I disagree. Something's up. You don't hire to get FO's to stick around. It costs to much to recruit, train, and then pay guarantees. We've started interviewing again like mad.



Agreed! The people are great, the flying is good, the company makes money, and haven't furloughed ever (except for a few months after 9/11). Captains are getting hired to majors. As stated above, except for a few very senior check airman and a couple of guys who have military pensions, it's not a career destination. But for a fast upgrade and great experience, it's a good place to spend a couple of years.

Well I was at the air conference last month in Miami just to see what was going on and Colgan was there. They have been to a lot of hiring conferences and usually only hire a handful. Like said on this forum many times by guys who interviewed with them recently, 20 people come and only 5 get hired. On the flip side, I did hear that there will be a lot of upgrades in July so you never know. Glad to here from other Colganites though!
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Old 05-17-2006, 04:56 PM
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Anyone know what the dates of the upcoming classes are for Colgan?
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Old 05-17-2006, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by buffalopilot
Since the training is 6 days a week, I take it is very difficult to go home on weekends to see the family. Does anyone have their families come to Houston at any time during training to visit?

What is the daily schedule like?
Are you in a hotel room alone during training?
No. Don't do that. Ever. This is the time to buckle down, kiss the wife goodby, hug the kids, and FOCUS on training. You do not want distractions. I didn't see my wife for three weeks. Do not fail training! If you should fail, because of the requirements of PRIA you would be subject to any future airline getting your training records going back ten years. A failure to complete new hire training would mean you are out of the luck working for any other part 121 airline. No one would touch you.

You will share a hotel room. A good idea. It gives you a study partner. DO NOT use off-the-street study programs!!! Study the material given to you and ONLY that material. The instructors will tell you those students that have problems typically study off-the-street "guides". The problems are these guides are too generic. We'll tell you what WE WANT YOU TO KNOW. Don't worry - you'll pass. There were two potential captains in my upgrade class of six that got off by themselves and studied using only an "off-the-street" guide. They thought they were smart. They failed ground school. The Director of Training gave them one day to study our materials and then put them through a tough three hour oral. They passed...barely. Both had trouble in the sim. Both made it through...but only just. Do yourself a favor...only study what the airline gives you. Cooperate and graduate!

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Old 05-17-2006, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by breds98
Anyone know what the dates of the upcoming classes are for Colgan?
The May classes will be May 22nd and May 30th and are for the Saab. There will be a class in June for both the Beech and Saab.

Bender is right on regarding training.

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Old 05-17-2006, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WEACLRS
You will share a hotel room. A good idea. It gives you a study partner.
haha, nice justification... you know that you don't have to LIVE with them to be study partners right?

Just bustn' your balls, Eagle does the same thing (until you get to the sims). Both are just being cheap. But at least they pay for the hotels unlike Mesa!

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Old 05-18-2006, 05:12 AM
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When did you see your wife if training is 6 weeks WAECLRS?
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:10 AM
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haha, nice justification... you know that you don't have to LIVE with them to be study partners right?

Just bustn' your balls, Eagle does the same thing (until you get to the sims). Both are just being cheap. But at least they pay for the hotels unlike Mesa!

I liked having a study partner at night. It works for me. At Colgan new hires share a room through sim. Upgrades don't. And we don't share rooms on trips. Mesa's pay is a whole other topic!
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by buffalopilot
When did you see your wife if training is 6 weeks WAECLRS?
I didn't! Well, thats not completely true. I was able to go home during the three day break between indoc and ground and the sim for new hiring training. I got to see her for 24 hours. When I upgraded to captain, well, that was a long three weeks. One week of ground, followed immediately by ten days of sim (one day off), followed immediately by four days of IOE, followed by a travel day to do my fed ride, followed by a day off, and then a ferry flight for the company from MNZ to IAH. I didn't see my wife during that time at all. But it was one hell of a reunion! The per diem check was huge (by our standards).
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Old 05-19-2006, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by WEACLRS
I didn't! Well, thats not completely true. I was able to go home during the three day break between indoc and ground and the sim for new hiring training. I got to see her for 24 hours. When I upgraded to captain, well, that was a long three weeks. One week of ground, followed immediately by ten days of sim (one day off), followed immediately by four days of IOE, followed by a travel day to do my fed ride, followed by a day off, and then a ferry flight for the company from MNZ to IAH. I didn't see my wife during that time at all. But it was one hell of a reunion! The per diem check was huge (by our standards).
How LONG was THAT?
(And don't you mean KHEF to KIAH?)
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Old 05-19-2006, 04:44 PM
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Colgan uses MNZ as the identifier for Manassas. I don't know why.
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