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Old 03-19-2009, 07:19 PM
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... I am out there on E tossing bags!! Good times
Right on, bro! Give me a call sometime.
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks
That was explicitly NOT the impression that I got from that investor call. It was NEVER stated that the planes would be flown at all by ASA pilots. I got the impression that they were sold, possibly to a foreign carrier. All that was said was they found a place to send 7 or 8 of those planes.

There is NO airline on this planet that will take on more 50's, especially a small fleet of 12 or so planes.

Those planes are goners, and come next summer, unless there is attrition or a large increase in block hours for the remaining 50's, or more 900's, look for another 100 pilots to hit the street.
Here we go again.............Mr.Doom and Gloom is back
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
No we are still overstaffed. The guys on reserve are flying 40-50 hours a month. If the start flying 90 then we will be understaffed on the FO side. Just under 75 hours a month on reserve is proper staffing levels we aren't even close to this...
I just took a look at the average hours over the last 4 days of the month and as of now everyone is averaging just shy of 60 hours, I suspect it will go higher before we close March out. Based on the number of 75 from above, it appears we may be are closer to proper staffing levels than previously thought.

And too top this off, myself and bunch of other folks were just converted from long call back to short call for the remainder of the month. However, this may be in anticipation of a line of weather that is expected to move through over the next 48 hours.
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by String682
I just took a look at the average hours over the last 4 days of the month and as of now everyone is averaging just shy of 60 hours, I suspect it will go higher before we close March out. Based on the number of 75 from above, it appears we may be are closer to proper staffing levels than previously thought.

And too top this off, myself and bunch of other folks were just converted from long call back to short call for the remainder of the month. However, this may be in anticipation of a line of weather that is expected to move through over the next 48 hours.
And I'll bet that a lot of that extra flying lately is also due to the crap weather we have had this month. As well as a bunch of aircraft taking a dump due to damage. It's a high month for reserve usage I guess.
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Old 03-25-2009, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by String682
I just took a look at the average hours over the last 4 days of the month and as of now everyone is averaging just shy of 60 hours, I suspect it will go higher before we close March out. Based on the number of 75 from above, it appears we may be are closer to proper staffing levels than previously thought.

And too top this off, myself and bunch of other folks were just converted from long call back to short call for the remainder of the month. However, this may be in anticipation of a line of weather that is expected to move through over the next 48 hours.
Ok first of all make sure you aren't looking at credit time, you need to look at block hours. The reserves (with exception to maybe a couple) aren't blocking more then 40 -50. Credit time is changed with rigs, pcs, and vacations.

Second, they will always always always convert you to short call!!! there could be 60000 reserves and they would claim low coverage. They did this before the furlough, they will do it after the furlough and they will do it forever until we get language in are contract prevents them from abusing they powers of conversion. This has been a problem since we got long call, they do it because they can....

One last thing, please remember we have had tons of weather this month that is somewhat unusual. this may cause reserves to be used a little more. We also have guys at Flight Safety doing transitions and taking them offline.
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Old 03-25-2009, 05:03 AM
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I just pulled the list for the 27th and 28th and i don't see anyone over 75 hours of credit......? what are you looking at?
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Old 03-25-2009, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
Ok first of all make sure you aren't looking at credit time, you need to look at block hours... .
Thanks for the clarification, since I didn't consider block vs.credit.
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I see 19 red arrow days in April.

I feel bad for the schedulers who are catching the wrath of angry pilots who cannot trade or swap.

Everyone suffers.
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Old 03-26-2009, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sweptback
The company can't furlough 100 pilots.
Surely you are not referring to the no furlough clause in the contract. It is not worth the paper it is written on. It is "feel good" language that was used to help sell the contract. No company would allow itself to be boxed in like that. It would do little good to protect every job at the expense of every job.
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