Any furloughed Gulfstream Airlines Pilots?
#41
To be frank, I do not have disdain for any instructor, I was stating that they were the only ones whove ever had a problem with me. I am on furlough going to be working on my CFI ratings, I do want to give somthing back, now that I have the experience under my belt.
This is why you should have facts before speaking. Sir, I am almost 40yrs old, I worked my butt off 40-60hrs a week in a factory, with a family and mortgage through 3 years of flight training. I spent my own money ( well mine and my wifes..) to get to where I am. To be frank, my Instructor all those years, thought this route was very good for me to go, and yes he is a captain for a corporate 135 op where I will probably end up some day. He was a better instructor in my eyes because he trained me from day one like I was in an 2 crew aircraft, and he could do this with his experiance. That is what I endevour to do now that I have some experiance to fall back on (121 ops) when I become and instructor. I believe it will definatly make me a better instructor than someone who is there building time on the back of a student simply waiting for the call. I know not all CFI's are like this, but they are out there. I also plan to start volunteering to fly for the CAP, again to give somthing back. I have no problem with people who chose their own destiny, and however you got to where you are, good for you, you got there. I am totally fine with my decisions, to date. Thank you for your input to the conversation.
This is why you should have facts before speaking. Sir, I am almost 40yrs old, I worked my butt off 40-60hrs a week in a factory, with a family and mortgage through 3 years of flight training. I spent my own money ( well mine and my wifes..) to get to where I am. To be frank, my Instructor all those years, thought this route was very good for me to go, and yes he is a captain for a corporate 135 op where I will probably end up some day. He was a better instructor in my eyes because he trained me from day one like I was in an 2 crew aircraft, and he could do this with his experiance. That is what I endevour to do now that I have some experiance to fall back on (121 ops) when I become and instructor. I believe it will definatly make me a better instructor than someone who is there building time on the back of a student simply waiting for the call. I know not all CFI's are like this, but they are out there. I also plan to start volunteering to fly for the CAP, again to give somthing back. I have no problem with people who chose their own destiny, and however you got to where you are, good for you, you got there. I am totally fine with my decisions, to date. Thank you for your input to the conversation.
#43
Maybe this sounds stupid, I don't know. But how is working for Gulfstream any different than paying for a "direct track, right seat direct, rj transition course". They are both pay to play.
#44
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This post is exactly why you will never be on the interview board at DAL. DAL cant go around not hiring pilot/pilots because of the interviewers personal issues. There happens to be legal problems involved with that.
#45
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I fly for Spirit Airlines and have been in the training department for a little over a year. Being based in Fort Lauderdale, I encounter Gulfstream pilots on a daily basis. My main observation was that they always exhibited a sense of entitlement while training, in the sim, and even when requesting a jumpseat (they can not sit in the cockpit becasue they are not CASS). I also had the pleasure of running into a young Captain (His real initials are B.S) who confronted me and became pseduo aggressive becasue he was not hired by Spirit following an interview. He is just one of many who I see every day. It has always been my belief that you should never pay for training, that will solicit your skills in the process. The company is making money off of you paying for training. You are a required crewmember... Do you realize that?
My main observation was that they always exhibited a sense of entitlement while training, in the sim,
Ummmm..... I thought you worked for Spirit??? Do you hang out at there training center in Fort L. or up at the sim in Denver on your days off or something? Im confused or are you just making things up because you just dont agree with it?
#46
Do you realize just how many gulfstream pilots are at Spirit right? I personally know of about 20.
My main observation was that they always exhibited a sense of entitlement while training, in the sim,
Ummmm..... I thought you worked for Spirit??? Do you hang out at there training center in Fort L. or up at the sim in Denver on your days off or something? Im confused or are you just making things up because you just dont agree with it?
My main observation was that they always exhibited a sense of entitlement while training, in the sim,
Ummmm..... I thought you worked for Spirit??? Do you hang out at there training center in Fort L. or up at the sim in Denver on your days off or something? Im confused or are you just making things up because you just dont agree with it?
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#47
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I fly for Spirit Airlines and have been in the training department for a little over a year. Being based in Fort Lauderdale, I encounter Gulfstream pilots on a daily basis. My main observation was that they always exhibited a sense of entitlement while training, in the sim, and even when requesting a jumpseat (they can not sit in the cockpit becasue they are not CASS). I also had the pleasure of running into a young Captain (His real initials are B.S) who confronted me and became pseduo aggressive becasue he was not hired by Spirit following an interview. He is just one of many who I see every day. It has always been my belief that you should never pay for training, that will solicit your skills in the process. The company is making money off of you paying for training. You are a required crewmember... Do you realize that?
Part of teaching is communication. I hope you're better at communicating company policies and procedures than you are at getting across your own original ideas.
#48
If you intend to give people crap for not understanding you, try to minimize the fragmentation of your ideas. You argue you see Gulfstream pilots all the time being in Ft. Lauderdale, and then you state you observe these same pilots you see in Ft. Lauderdale in the Sim, and go on to discuss their jumpseating. Your syntax would lead anyone to believe that you spend your free time hanging outside the 1900 Sim.
Part of teaching is communication. I hope you're better at communicating company policies and procedures than you are at getting across your own original ideas.
Part of teaching is communication. I hope you're better at communicating company policies and procedures than you are at getting across your own original ideas.
#49
So are you going to add anything to this argument, or just correct my sentence structure? I am not giving people crap. I am not sorry if my opinion offends you or anyone else. I stand by my anti PFT beliefs, and shun pilots who support it.
Last edited by taylorjets; 02-24-2009 at 02:48 PM.
#50
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How do you all feel about guys who were hired there as street CA's? Would they be on your no hire list as well??
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