Any furloughed Gulfstream Airlines Pilots?
02-27-2009, 01:14 PM
#171
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You can think what you want, that is a fact. Do some research, go through some financial records on GIA. Prove me wrong
02-27-2009, 01:15 PM
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your missing the point completely!!!! I spent around 1,000hrs instructing, the GIA guy got the minimums then paid for his job flying a BEECH 1900 under 121 regs, so the Gulfstream guy is simply swinging gear playing airline pilot while I am teaching aerodynamics, both on the ground and in the airplane. One of the most satisfying experiences I ever had was watching my first student SOLO. I TAUGHT someone how to FLY AN AIRPLANE. That is a big deal to me, I was teaching stalls, crosswind landings, cross-country planning, rejected T/Os etc, meanwhile Mikey Airline Pilot over at GIA was just pushed through some BS 121 program so he can sit in the right seat of a 1900 and do an occasional landing or two.
You want to know how sad there program is? We had a female Gulfstream CA (Jumpseater) tell us myself and and a 10yr CA) at FL180 that the local altimeter setting was blah blah blah......She thought she was helping us, she didn't know enough to know that its when passing BELOW FL180 you set the altimeter, it was pathetic........ I guess thats what happens when you do FLL-MYNN you whole career
I don't care if you like what I have to say, GIA is a scam and it BREEDS incompetent pilots, its not up for debate, its a FACT, and recent history has proved it.............
tired of this BS..............
You want to know how sad there program is? We had a female Gulfstream CA (Jumpseater) tell us myself and and a 10yr CA) at FL180 that the local altimeter setting was blah blah blah......She thought she was helping us, she didn't know enough to know that its when passing BELOW FL180 you set the altimeter, it was pathetic........ I guess thats what happens when you do FLL-MYNN you whole career
I don't care if you like what I have to say, GIA is a scam and it BREEDS incompetent pilots, its not up for debate, its a FACT, and recent history has proved it.............
tired of this BS..............
Re-read it..............
02-27-2009, 01:18 PM
#173
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Sorry, your word doesn't constitute fact. But if you'd like, you could bold the portion that you believe proves me wrong
02-27-2009, 01:22 PM
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your missing the point completely!!!! I spent around 1,000hrs instructing, the GIA guy got the minimums then paid for his job flying a BEECH 1900 under 121 regs, so the Gulfstream guy is simply swinging gear playing airline pilot while I am teaching aerodynamics, both on the ground and in the airplane. One of the most satisfying experiences I ever had was watching my first student SOLO. I TAUGHT someone how to FLY AN AIRPLANE. That is a big deal to me, I was teaching stalls, crosswind landings, cross-country planning, rejected T/Os etc, meanwhile Mikey Airline Pilot over at GIA was just pushed through some BS 121 program so he can sit in the right seat of a 1900 and do an occasional landing or two.
You want to know how sad there program is? We had a female Gulfstream CA (Jumpseater) tell us myself and and a 10yr CA) at FL180 that the local altimeter setting was blah blah blah......She thought she was helping us, she didn't know enough to know that its when passing BELOW FL180 you set the altimeter, it was pathetic........ I guess thats what happens when you do FLL-MYNN you whole career
I don't care if you like what I have to say, GIA is a scam and it BREEDS incompetent pilots, its not up for debate, its a FACT, and recent history has proved it.............
tired of this BS..............
02-27-2009, 01:26 PM
#175
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ohhh...I see how that proves GIA accepts money from pilots...I should have known when you decided to bring up people who aren't here to defend themselves that any shot at an intelligent debate with you was over. I apologize for attempting to continue this debate.
02-27-2009, 01:30 PM
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Would the crew of the Pinnacle crash really be able to defend themselves against their ridiculous behavior?
02-27-2009, 01:31 PM
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Are you saying there is a difference between GIA and GTA, the pre-training department?
02-27-2009, 01:32 PM
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Yeah, there most certainly is
02-27-2009, 01:35 PM
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your missing the point completely!!!! I spent around 1,000hrs instructing, the GIA guy got the minimums then paid for his job flying a BEECH 1900 under 121 regs, so the Gulfstream guy is simply swinging gear playing airline pilot while I am teaching aerodynamics, both on the ground and in the airplane. One of the most satisfying experiences I ever had was watching my first student SOLO. I TAUGHT someone how to FLY AN AIRPLANE. That is a big deal to me, I was teaching stalls, crosswind landings, cross-country planning, rejected T/Os etc, meanwhile Mikey Airline Pilot over at GIA was just pushed through some BS 121 program so he can sit in the right seat of a 1900 and do an occasional landing or two.
You want to know how sad there program is? We had a female Gulfstream CA (Jumpseater) tell us myself and and a 10yr CA) at FL180 that the local altimeter setting was blah blah blah......She thought she was helping us, she didn't know enough to know that its when passing BELOW FL180 you set the altimeter, it was pathetic........ I guess thats what happens when you do FLL-MYNN you whole career
I don't care if you like what I have to say, GIA is a scam and it BREEDS incompetent pilots, its not up for debate, its a FACT, and recent history has proved it.............
tired of this BS..............
You want to know how sad there program is? We had a female Gulfstream CA (Jumpseater) tell us myself and and a 10yr CA) at FL180 that the local altimeter setting was blah blah blah......She thought she was helping us, she didn't know enough to know that its when passing BELOW FL180 you set the altimeter, it was pathetic........ I guess thats what happens when you do FLL-MYNN you whole career
I don't care if you like what I have to say, GIA is a scam and it BREEDS incompetent pilots, its not up for debate, its a FACT, and recent history has proved it.............
tired of this BS..............
Second, I am not disagreeing with you, I think the GIA program is a joke, but that wasnt my point.
Everyone here is so eager to point the finger at everyone elses company. Whether its pay, work rules, contract, it doesnt matter. The reality is, a person has no business sitting in a 50+ seat jet making 25K a year! it is detrimental to the industry as a whole, not just to those flying for reagionals. It affects us all. Its completely detrimental and it lowers the bar not only for our co-workers, but for the next generation of pilots. The problem isnt just the goofballs that are paying to fly for GIA, it is all of us. Your just as guilty whether you pay GIA to fly, sit in the right seat of a 135 op for free to build time, or take a 121 job for literally half of what you should be making. You know, it wouldnt hurt If people had as much passion about the sad state of the industry as a whole instead of having a passion for pointing fingers at individual regional airlines. Truth be told, they ALL are garbage.
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