Be Careful What You Say...
02-20-2009, 10:18 AM
#51
Che Guevara
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,408
No offense but I don't think anyone here wants the liability of being your information source, or that of anyone else for that matter. This is "Airline Pilot Central". These are the "Airline Pilot Forums". We come here to speak with one another about issues we find pressing amongst our profession. I don't think anyone wants to have to deliberate 4 times before saying anything due to fear of how someone in civil land will interpret what we say. Something that's a well understood joke between us might come off is callous, dangerous, etc to the unknowing and undeserving eyes of the public. If you want news then turn on CNN of Fox. Our companies have HR spokesmen for a reason and that's because of how wrong the public can twist everything.
02-20-2009, 10:31 AM
#52
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: NA-265-80
Posts: 94
Duck, you're right and that's is a good comment.
I was recluctant to respond to this thread, but it touched a nerve with me. Reason being... I used to be an F/O on the Q400 at Colgan, for about a year. It was a great experience and I would not trade it for anything.
I thought about maybe it should have been me in that right seat instead of Rebecca Shaw. I needed to call a counselor yesterday because it bothered the heck out of me.
I was recluctant to respond to this thread, but it touched a nerve with me. Reason being... I used to be an F/O on the Q400 at Colgan, for about a year. It was a great experience and I would not trade it for anything.
I thought about maybe it should have been me in that right seat instead of Rebecca Shaw. I needed to call a counselor yesterday because it bothered the heck out of me.
02-20-2009, 12:00 PM
#53
New Hire
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 6
No offense but I don't think anyone here wants the liability of being your information source, or that of anyone else for that matter. This is "Airline Pilot Central". These are the "Airline Pilot Forums". We come here to speak with one another about issues we find pressing amongst our profession. I don't think anyone wants to have to deliberate 4 times before saying anything due to fear of how someone in civil land will interpret what we say. Something that's a well understood joke between us might come off is callous, dangerous, etc to the unknowing and undeserving eyes of the public. If you want news then turn on CNN of Fox. Our companies have HR spokesmen for a reason and that's because of how wrong the public can twist everything.
Again, my only point was to say that not all of the lurkers have intentions other than to further their personal understanding of what could have possibly transpired that night. Mainly, again, because there is very little mentioned about this incident from media sources, just like the ones you mentioned, CNN/Fox/etc...
If my saying that the ongoing respectful discussion of this incident among those that can truly relate (i.e. pilots/you, not journalists), provides useful information for the average person like me, and this is offensive to you/anyone else, I sincerely apologize (holy run-on sentence
, but I think you get my point).This is my final post, I will delete my account; I don't have anything useful to add to your forum. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone or ruffle any feathers…if I did, again, my apologies.
Take care all.
02-20-2009, 12:06 PM
#54
Proponent of Hysteria
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: 3B
Posts: 1,052
Nerd: No need to go away. Guys are upset and edgy right now. Your point is well taken. I think you should be free to peruse the site and gather info on what pilots are thinking and saying. Its still a free country. Don't take this stuff personally.
Thanks.
Thanks.
02-20-2009, 12:36 PM
#55
Day puke
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Out.
Posts: 3,865
Or maybe it just isn't as interesting as a pet chimp that rips a woman's face off, JonBenet Ramsey, or Lorena Bobbit.
02-20-2009, 01:23 PM
#56
Gets ALL Days Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Sit down comedian.
Posts: 958
Again, my only point was to say that not all of the lurkers have intentions other than to further their personal understanding of what could have possibly transpired that night. Mainly, again, because there is very little mentioned about this incident from media sources, just like the ones you mentioned, CNN/Fox/etc...
It is clear the media can not responsibly report on aviation accidents after the Colgan accident. I have heard more unrealistic garbage on the news than facts. One CNN meteorologist was even saying carb. icing could have caused the plane to crash. News used to be news, but now it has put entertainment before facts. If you want the facts, wait for the NTSB to come out.
02-20-2009, 02:06 PM
#57
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: UPS 757/767 Capt ONT
Posts: 4,357
"This is my final post, I will delete my account; I don't have anything useful to add to your forum. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone or ruffle any feathers…if I did, again, my apologies."
It should be obvious to anyone paying attention that we don't restrict the site to just pilots. Anyone with an interest in aviation is welcome to post. Especially if a ones spouse is a Colgan pilot, for pete's sake...
We have many non-pilot users here that contribute in a positive manner, even a mod who is an attorney. Besides, nerd, there is no provision in the software for you to delete your account...hehe....
It should be obvious to anyone paying attention that we don't restrict the site to just pilots. Anyone with an interest in aviation is welcome to post. Especially if a ones spouse is a Colgan pilot, for pete's sake...
We have many non-pilot users here that contribute in a positive manner, even a mod who is an attorney. Besides, nerd, there is no provision in the software for you to delete your account...hehe....
02-20-2009, 02:32 PM
#58
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: none ya...
Posts: 1,154
"This is my final post, I will delete my account; I don't have anything useful to add to your forum. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone or ruffle any feathers…if I did, again, my apologies."
It should be obvious to anyone paying attention that we don't restrict the site to just pilots. Anyone with an interest in aviation is welcome to post. Especially if a ones spouse is a Colgan pilot, for pete's sake...
We have many non-pilot users here that contribute in a positive manner, even a mod who is an attorney. Besides, nerd, there is no provision in the software for you to delete your account...hehe....
It should be obvious to anyone paying attention that we don't restrict the site to just pilots. Anyone with an interest in aviation is welcome to post. Especially if a ones spouse is a Colgan pilot, for pete's sake...
We have many non-pilot users here that contribute in a positive manner, even a mod who is an attorney. Besides, nerd, there is no provision in the software for you to delete your account...hehe....
Last edited by vagabond; 02-20-2009 at 02:38 PM. Reason: fixed the quote glitch for you :)
02-20-2009, 06:34 PM
#59
New Hire
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 6
"This is my final post, I will delete my account; I don't have anything useful to add to your forum. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone or ruffle any feathers…if I did, again, my apologies."
It should be obvious to anyone paying attention that we don't restrict the site to just pilots. Anyone with an interest in aviation is welcome to post. Especially if a ones spouse is a Colgan pilot, for pete's sake...
We have many non-pilot users here that contribute in a positive manner, even a mod who is an attorney. Besides, nerd, there is no provision in the software for you to delete your account...hehe....
It should be obvious to anyone paying attention that we don't restrict the site to just pilots. Anyone with an interest in aviation is welcome to post. Especially if a ones spouse is a Colgan pilot, for pete's sake...
We have many non-pilot users here that contribute in a positive manner, even a mod who is an attorney. Besides, nerd, there is no provision in the software for you to delete your account...hehe....
. Ah well...one more member in the pile can only help ad revenue.Thanks again guys.
Oh, and if non-pilots are welcome here, if anyone ever has any automotive related issues/questions/concerns, feel free to ask away...I'm an automotive engineer when I'm not on here pestering you folks
02-24-2009, 04:58 AM
#60
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: Captain, CRJ-200, ASA
Posts: 876
So what you're saying is we need a forum for pilots that is meant to only be accessed by pilots. Possibly even taking it a step further such as dividing groups up to categories like Regional or Mainline so those respective pilots could speak freely in those areas.... Brilliant!!!!
Seriously unless we want to start making your license number a requirement to join where can we go that's "safe" from the public?
So we can't talk about the UFOs and the secret reason why airlines are actually delayed now?
Seriously unless we want to start making your license number a requirement to join where can we go that's "safe" from the public?
So we can't talk about the UFOs and the secret reason why airlines are actually delayed now?
You must sign up with your real name and pilot license number. Yes, they check. You must also have an account to lurk. It eliminates 99% of the B.S. you see in places like this and like FI.
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