Purpleanga

I'm not sure about other flying but as far as the UA and Airways East, there are a whole bunch of regionals that would like all of that. Besides, Skywest or Gojet, you forgot to mention TSA which does a lot of 50 seat ORD flying and most IAD 50 seat flying for United if Mesa wasn't there. I would imagine PSA and AirWisconsin could help out too...

muushin

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evilboy

You are completely right sir. Very insightful. Doesnt matter how much the legacies my want to reduce domestic flying, they are not stupid enough to lose the revenue from those areas, nor the presence an RJ gives them. If mainline does not go there, the regionals will always have a flight. And that is a lot of flying that Mesa does in the SW, mid-west, NW, and west coast, just to mention a few areas. Look at their route maps and pay attention to how many cities they go where mainland either doesn't go, or just have one flight into it. Some of it will go by the wayside, but the large majority will be scooped up by the other regionals.

The Duke

Go to Yahoo, click on the finance tab, type Mesa in the stock search engine, you'll find everything you need right there.

Pilots are good for talking about flying, beer, and women (not necessarily in that order), but are generally babbling baboons when it comes to economics and airline financials.

You'll also get a more impartial synopsis from Yahoo, minus the partisan bickering that mushrooms from any thread on APC that contains the word "Mesa".

Good luck,
The Duke...

NightHawk

I think you should fully read my post before you respond. Yes some of it will be covered by somebody else, especially the 900 flying. But, I guarantee the majors have no desire at all to recoupe 50 seat flying if Mesa went under. Much flying will lost. Over 3/4 of mesa's fleet are 50 seaters. Nobody has any desire to keep 50 seaters going, they are slowly being phased out. US airways is taking every oppurtunity to reduce them as is delta and I'm sure United wouldn't mind as well if they had the oppurtunity. Look at the TSA/GoJet situation, need I say more? The majors are going to keep on with this until they have nothing but 70 and 90 seaters that are full. It is not economic to fly around 50 seaters with 12 people on board. And don't say you havn't had flights like that. You think that's making money? It's not. The only thing keeping anybody going is these contracts. The only airline immune is the one and only airline with only 700's. The rest of us are all prey.

Lowlevel

HAHA! Great reference.....Winthorp!

Purpleanga

Wait a minute, the 50 seaters started to magically become less appealing when the price of oil was 150 dollars a barrel, now pretty much every major is reconsidering. No doubt CRJ9s are becoming very appealing but using your example of having only 12 aboard, which airplane will be more economical a 50 or 70 seater?

NoJoy

There should be more "real" Mesa news coming up in the next few days-

CaptKrunch

I think you should reread your own post and ask yourself why you wrote it. The 50 seater was not profitable when gas was at $150 but now that it is under $40 I think the 50 seaters are doing just fine. Your right in saying the regionals are probably still going to get rid of MOST of them but there is not much of an incentive to do so right now. As for your little example, I would seriously doubt even a Dash8-100 would make money with 12 people on it. And yes I have been on a flight with no Rev pax on board it happens its called life.

PILOTGUY

Nice to see this thread got hijacked too. Nobody has enough respect for the loss of our bothers and sisters on other threads, so why should this one be any different.

On Jan 6, 2009, Mesa received shareholder approval to authorize up to 900 million shares. Mesa is now negotiating with the major bond holders and apparently the talks are going well. So it looks like Mesa may not have any cash outlay for those debt repayments.

Check the Mesa airgroup website under investor relations. Looks like they paid out 1.8 million in cash and over 11 million in stock. To boring to read for me since I don't invest in any airline.

I have not been able to find anything on the Jan 30th court date.

Hope it at least helps a little.